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    Topic:   low-budget movie scores

     dex
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    Okay, I know there are TONS and TONS of low-budget, direct-to-video movies, and 95% of them truly are as bad as DTVs' reputation would suggest.. But have you ever noticed that some of them have surprisingly good scores? Of course, they may be constricted by the budget, but they're still very good for the kind of films they accompany.

    Personally, I think the scores for Michael Dudikoff's recent films are excellant, especially "Strategic Command," "Crash Dive," and "The Shooter." (The last two you can find at Hollywood Video if you're interested in hearing them for yourself, but the first film, despite being made in 1997, is already out of print).

    What other low-budget DTVs have you noticed with good scores?

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    posted 04-23-2000 10:28 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Sometimes the made for TV movies that also go directly to videos don't have large budgets but have wonderful scores. Two I recently enjoyed were Dollar for the Dead and Purgatory. Both had excellent western scores. Dollar for the Dead was pure Morricone.

    dex, I also watched The Shooter tonight after reading your discussion with H Rocco. It had some places of solid scoring. I'd like to know a little more about Michael Dudikoff if dex, dantoris, or H Rocco can tell me. Does he make mostly low budget, rather action oriented, possibly cult movies? I haven't seen him before this movie. Is he kind of like the "Billy Jack" of the 90's? I'll try to find the others listed on dex's post. Thanks.

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    posted 04-23-2000 10:56 PM PT (US)     

     dex
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    Haven't seen "Dollar For the Dead," but I have "Purgatory" on tape. Good film, and good score, too.

    For more info on Dudikoff, check out this extremely comprehensive website. His early films (and he made A LOT for the now-defunct Cannon Pictures), like the "American Ninja" ones, "Platoon Leader," and "River of Death," were released in the theaters, but starting in the early 90s, his films were released direct-to-video, despite being fairly well-made films. In the last three years, he's made nearly a dozen films, most of which involve him as a military character involved in behind enemy lines-type of mission. But in some of his other films, "Moving Target" (1996) and "Fugitive Mind" (1999), he portrays an ordinary man who doesn't like to fight, but must resort to it, kind of like Jackie Chan does in his films. One movie he made last year was a huge change of pace. It's a court drama where he plays a lawyer who has an affair with his client (Marlee Matlin), which leads to betrayal and murder. It has NO action at all. Cinemax has been showing it the last couple of months, so perhaps you can catch that one if you have cable.

    Anyway, check out the above site for all the information you could need to know about Dudikoff . . . and then some. If you want even MORE info, though, e-mail Dantoris. He's the foremost authority on Dudikoff that I know of. He's even made a compliation CD of music from Dudikoff's films. Check out his thread here to find out more about this impressive CD.

    [This message has been edited by dex (edited 23 April 2000).]

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    posted 04-23-2000 11:05 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Some time ago there was a fantastic thriller called Mute Witness, one of my favourite films, which I think was pretty low-budget. Really impressive score, though, as most of the film was done really impressively.

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    posted 04-24-2000 04:55 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    I would guess that "The Crow: Salvation" was a low-budget film score. There are several instances where I heard synthesized instruments. Just a guess...

    Jeron

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    posted 04-24-2000 06:22 AM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I keep mentioning this name, and nobody reacts because nobody remembers it, because none of his movies are remarkable -- but the scores are: TERRY PLUMERI. I think he has massive ability, he's easily one of the best-kept secrets in the film composing world -- reminds me of Christopher Young's early obscurity, but unlike Chris he hasn't managed to break through. Like Chris, however, he's done an AWFUL lot of cheap movies with numbers in the titles, e.g. RELENTLESS 4 and DEATH WISH 5. (I was surprised at the quality of the main title music in RELENTLESS 4 until Plumeri's name came up, then I thought, "oh, no wonder.") Except for DEATH WISH 5, I'm not sure any of his pictures have even been seen in theaters. There are many great character actors who have become genuine above-the-title stars thanks to direct-to-video -- we almost never see Lance Henriksen or Christopher Walken in big-screen character roles anymore, for instance -- but it's also served as a sort of prison for a lot of the behind-the-camera talent, I think. (Some of whom belong there. Director Anthony Hickox, anyone?)

    (Hmm, I am implicitly equating direct-to-video with a ghetto of some sort, when in fact it offers massive potential for audience and exposure. I will have to think more about this. That market still seems to be evolving.)

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    posted 04-24-2000 12:25 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    Castle Freak (Richard Band)
    Josh Kirby: Time Warrior (Richard Band)
    Dragonworld (Richard Band)
    Puppet Master 5 (Richard Band)
    Shrunken Heads (Richard Band)
    Prehysteria! (Richard Band)
    Puppet Master 4 (Richard Band)
    Remote (Richard Band)
    Demonic Toys (Richard Band)
    Doctor Mordrid (Richard Band)
    The Resurrected (Richard Band)
    The Pit and the Pendulum (Richard Band)
    Puppet Master 3 (Richard Band)
    Bride of the Re-Animator (Richard Band)
    Puppet Master 2 (Richard Band)
    The Caller (Richard Band)
    Puppet Master (Richard Band)
    Prison (Richard Band)
    From Beyond (Richard Band)
    Ghost Warrior (Richard Band)
    Troll (Richard Band)
    The Alchemist (Richard Band)
    Ghoulies (Richard Band)
    Re-Animator (Richard Band)
    Mutant (Richard Band)
    Metalstorm (Richard Band)
    The House on Sorority Row (Richard Band)
    The Day Time Ended (Richard Band)

    I think I see a pattern here...

    James

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    posted 04-24-2000 05:41 PM PT (US)     

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    Hey! I think you forget to mention who composed those scores.

    Also of mention:
    all the HALLOWEEN scores, except for John Ottman's. The scores (like the films they come from) are extremely underrated.

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    posted 04-24-2000 05:57 PM PT (US)     

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    The score for The dead Hate The Living,which was made for video was actually pretty good.

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    posted 04-25-2000 12:02 AM PT (US)     

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    Being a fan of horror and b-films, I must agree with both H Rocco and James. Plumeri put his all into every score he has made. Granted, the films he has worked on are nearly all terrible, but the music he composed for them is absolutely phenomenal. My personal favorite is SCARECROWS (both film and score). His score for BLACK EAGLE, one of the worst flicks ever made, had some great action music. Also, the triple feature that was released on Edel/Cinerama, FINAL JUDGEMENT/STEPMONSTER/THE TERROR WITHIN 2, is a great sampler of what he is capable of. His score for the remake of WASP WOMAN was also well done.

    Richard Band is another composer who got very little work outside of his brother's films, and whether he wants to admit it or not, was most likely due to his tribute to Bernard Herrmann in Re-Animator. Too many people thought he was "ripping off" the master when it's clear to see that it was intended as a tribute to Herrmann. The recent UP AND DOWN 2CD promo was a let-down for me, with all the hokey cartoon music and not enough of the intense style he's so good at writing. It's hard to pick any favorites, but if I had to, the top of the list would be RESURRECTED, FROM BEYOND and RE-ANIMATOR.

    Add to this list the name CONRAD POPE. This is a guy who has orchestrated such films as THE LOST WORLD:JURASSIC PARK 2, AMISTAD, THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT, ERASER, THE SANTA CLAUSE and SLEEPY HOLLOW. His score for PROJECT:METAL BEAST is absolutley brilliant. His scores for other films such as THE SET-UP, TEMPTATION and UNDER THE MOON are also some great quality orchestral scores.

    Some more names:

    -DAVID WILLIAMS has also impressed me with his scores for PROPHECY 2, PHANTOMS and WISHMASTER 2.

    -SIMON BOSWELL's scores for DUST DEVIL, DELIRIA (with Stefano Mainetti), LORD OF ILLUSIONS, HARDWARE and PHOTOGRAPHING FAIRIES are all worth checking out.

    -STEFANO MAINETTI's score to TALOS THE MUMMY (aka Russell Mulcahy's Tale of the Mummy) impressed me very much, as did the film.

    -ECKART SEEBER's score to Bram Stoker's SHADOWBUILDER is first rate.

    -COLIN TOWNS' scores for VAMPIRE'S KISS, RAWHEAD REX and THE WOLVES OF WILLOUGHBY CHASE rank among my favorites by him.

    -JOEL GOLDSMITH's (may be too big to be mentioned here) score to Jim Wynorski's VAMPIRELLA shows the talent that Jerry's son has.

    -PINO DONAGGIO, after being used almost exclusively by Brian De Palma in the late 70s and early 80s, has seemingly fallen from grace in Hollywood and has certainly written his share of b-movie and horror scores. Favorites by Pino, b-movie or not, would have to be THE HOWLING, TOURIST TRAP, CARRIE, BODY DOUBLE, CRAWLSPACE, PIRANHA and MERIDIAN

    I have to take exception with the sentiment about OTTMAN's Halloween score. I don't see how you can go wrong with his PORTRAIT OF TERROR. Maybe it got rejected because it wasn't a redundant Carpenter keyboard theme. Speaking of Ottman - THE USUAL SUSPECTS and INCOGNITO I'd rate as the best of a very good lot of scores he has composed.

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    posted 04-25-2000 07:26 AM PT (US)     

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    Because of our your H’Ness’s comments, I checked out a few
    movies scored by Terry Plumeri. He is indeed underrated, and
    I found him versatile in several styles of music. In the movies I
    watched his scores utilized visceral action motifs, eerie, make-your-
    skin crawl themes, sad and melancholy melodies, surreal choir
    pieces, and many other various styles. ( Watched Death Wish V,
    Relentless IV...neither will win Oscars, and Soldier Boyz,
    which was clichéd but rather endearing, and IMHO had the best
    score, especially in the end credits. The snake deaths were almost
    too much for me.)Yes, H R, the main title music in Relentless IV was FINE!

    Okay Hank, does this mean you’ll be renting
    those Cult Movie classics, Big Bad Mama II and Return of the
    Swamp Thing to hear my guy? Heh, heh.

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    posted 04-25-2000 11:02 PM PT (US)     

     dex
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    Did you notice the ads for tonight's big USA premiere movie, "The Expendables?" They even stole the "Soldier Boyz" tagline of 'a dirty half-dozen."

    USA even took credit for being the producers of Van Damme's "Legionnaire," airing commercials that proudly stated, 'A USA original picture.' "Legionnaire" was made almost a year before for theatrical release (ultimately ending up on video/DVD).

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    posted 04-25-2000 11:07 PM PT (US)     

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    I knew Mom would agree ... (by the way, as far as entertainment goes, the better RELENTLESS titles are 2 and 3 -- 3 boasts a truly terrifying performance by William Forsythe that in itself is worth the price of rental. 2 is simply twistier and more fun to watch, probably the best of the quartet as far as anything resembling "entertainment.")

    I'll bring up an even more insanely obscure name: Joel Derouin, who did a very nice score for the strange Chuck Norris actioner THE HITMAN. (Beautifully shot by Joao Fernandes, and full of weirder stuff than one usually expects from a Norris picture.)

    NP: EARTH DESTRUCTION DIRECTIVE: GODZILLA VS. GIGAN (stock music from earlier films, Akira Ifukube)

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    posted 04-25-2000 11:27 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm guessing that Joan is referring to Chuck Cirino, although DOLLAR FOR THE DEAD was scored by George S. Clinton while PURGATORY was scored by Brad Fiedel.

    Chuck's scores seem to be hit and miss. I liked what he did for films such as SORORITY HOUSE MASSACRE II, HARD TO DIE, SORCERESS, DINOSAUR ISLAND, EVIL TOONS and DEATHSTALKER II, while NOT OF THIS EARTH, GHOULIES IV and CHOPPING MALL were too campy keyboard-ish for my tastes. His collaboration with Fredric Ensign Teetzel on HAUNTING OF MORELLA was very impressive, although I don't know who wrote what. For the most part, Chuck Cirino and Jim Wynorski go hand in hand!

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    posted 04-26-2000 08:09 AM PT (US)     

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    majestyx, yes I was referencing Chuck Cirino. I was very impressed with his music in B.B. Mama II, especially the theme near the end during the hostage exchange, and I enjoyed his action theme and love theme in Return of the Swamp Thing. I'll check out the others that you recommend on your list. Thanks. (I'd like to hear what he could do if given more than a key board, synth, and guitar.)

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    posted 04-26-2000 08:36 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by majestyx:
    -ECKART SEEBER's score to Bram Stoker's SHADOWBUILDER is first rate.

    Oh yes, I loved that score! The movie itself was better than I had expected, too.

    James

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