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Don't worry Chris I'm the perfect gentleman, I never get caught with my pants down or unzipped.

[Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 02-01-2001]

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Originally posted by joan hue:
"Please don't let her catch you with your trousers off." Awww, come on, Chris, don't be a killjoy.

And,Mark, avoid those "bearded dykes" alluded to by Daniel2.

I too have faith the right lady will come along. I can tell from your posts, Mark, that you are a KEEPER!

Best snack? M&M's ALWAYS!

NP Sense and Sensibility

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BRITONS WITH BALLS – part XVI

Sir Isaac Newton

Born 1642, Woolsthorp, Lincolnshire, England
Died 1727, London, England

Sir Isaac Newton, English mathematician and physicist, was the greatest single influence on theoretical physics until Albert Einstein. He was most productive during the period 1666-7 (which he called his annus mirabilis), during which he laid the foundations of his future successes in mathematics, optics, dynamics (mechanics), and astronomy. He discovered the binomial theorem, and made contributions to algebra, geometry, and the theory of infinite series, all somewhat overshadowed by his most famous contribution to mathematics--the differential calculus (his 'method of fluxions') for finding rates of change of varying quantities, and his discovery of its relationship with what is now called integration (then 'quadrature'), the problem of finding the area of a figure circumscribed by curved boundaries.

His optical experiments, begun in 1666, led to his discovery that white light is made up of a mixture of coloured rays. He applied his knowledge of optics to the production of the first reflecting telescope in 1668. He became Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge in 1669.

In his major treatise, Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica (1686-7), widely acknowledged as being one of the greatest science books ever written, he gave a mathematical description of the laws of mechanics (Newton's Laws of Motion) and gravitation, and applied this theory to explain planetary and lunar motion. Newton's Law of Gravitation is central to his work on astronomy. It states that the force between any two bodies in the universe is proportional to the product of the masses of the two bodies divided by the square of the distance separating them. He also proved that the gravitational effect of a three-dimensional body such as a planet is equivalent to that of its total mass concentrated at a point at its center. He used his theory to account for the polar flattening of the Earth, the precession of the equinoxes, the revolution of the lunar line of nodes, and also to measure the mass of the Sun and those planets that have moons. He proved that any body moving in space subject to a single central force moves on a conic, such as an ellipse, and he went on to devise a method of calculating cometary orbits.

For most purposes Newtonian mechanics has survived even the 20th-century introduction of relativity theory and quantum mechanics (to both of which theories it stands as a first, but very good, approximation) as a mathematical description of terrestrial and cosmological phenomena.

In 1699 Newton was appointed Master of the Mint, and was responsible for an urgently needed reform of the coinage, and in 1703 was elected President of the Royal Society, whose reputation he greatly increased over the following twenty-four years. Newton interested himself also in alchemy, astrology, and theology, and attempted a biblical chronology. Ever the radical, much like Darwin, Newton was involved in several bitter controversies with the more conservative elements of the scientific community.

You said – ”Then D2 is wrong. Because a Tsunami is not a TIDAL wave, but a SEISMIC wave.”

Maybe tomorrow, or perhaps 10,000 years from now, that island in the Atlantic will collapse into the ocean creating a tidal wave 100 feet high that will devastate the eastern seaboard of the United States.

You said – ”Very bad form sneering at James, Mr. 2…”

Fair comment.

Although my remark was not meant nastily, apologies to James.

You said – ”Daniel2: [content removed so that you may not post another one of your ludicris responses]”

Though you may be genuinely honest in your beliefs, when you talk of wanting ‘no abortions’ and abortion being ‘murder’, you are being extremely naïve in your ostrich-like intransigence. Nobody wants abortions, least of all me, but they are a sad fact of life, whether you choose to accept it or not. Abortions take place for a variety of reasons, one of the most important being the humane termination of a deformed foetus. Don’t get me wrong, there are many great people in the world who suffer great disability (Stephen Hawking for instance), but surely it is right for man, now he has developed the means, to prevent the birth of a child who has no eyes or limbs, or a child doomed to an existence of perpetual pain. Sometimes the cold inevitability of ‘God’, should be challenged by the humanity and artistry of man.

When you cross the street John, do you simply look straight ahead placing one foot in front of the other, believing that God will prevent the traffic from running you over? Do you rely on your faith in God to protect you, come what may?

Of course you don’t. You look from side to side, and wait until the traffic is appropriately placed before beginning the crossing …..in other words you exercise your own judgement, you apply common sense to the matter.

It is the same with abortion. Even Chris believes that, although God created the planet, it is man’s dominion. Thus, mankind must be allowed to exercise his own judgement if he is allowed to progress and improve the lot of humankind. Mankind doesn’t always make the right decision, but it is mankind’s decision to make.

Last year, here in England, much controversy surrounded the birth of Siamese twins. To allow one of the twins to live, surgeons had to terminate the life of the other. If the twins had remained attached, it was extremely likely that both would die within a very few months, having experienced great suffering. However, the staunchly Catholic parents of the twins objected to the ‘murder’ of one of their children, arguing that their childrens’ destiny was in God’s hands, and if both died it would be God’s will.

In a landmark case, the surgeons took the parents to the courtroom, where after lengthy deliberation, it was decided that the surgeons should be allowed to exercise their own humane judgement by terminating the life of one of the twins to allow the other to live.

This is a perfect example of where the practical common sense decisions of man are needed to alter the heartless and dispassionate course of nature (or if you prefer, God).

But this is the kind of difficult decision that your one-dimensional and blinkered philosophy cannot absorb.

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I'm gettin' outta here RIGHT NOW!

we're at 1900+ posts!

2000 is on the horizon.

Chris, regarding that Chicken page. Einstein probably would have said that the Chicken did not necessarily cross the road, but that you could just as well say the road crossed the chicken.

...and how should I drive you nuts? I always thought you already are... *ducksandcovers*

naM suniM ehT -- PN

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Originally posted by DANIEL2:
being extremely naïve in your ostrich-like intransigence.
But this is the kind of difficult decision that your one-dimensional and blinkered philosophy cannot absorb.

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You seem to have abandoned all pretense and gone on to typing eloquent insults.
Daniel2, I consider with my beliefs more dimensions of any problem than your hopelessly Godless philosophy will allow. It is you, not I, who is imitating the ostrich, placing your head in the sand so that you need not consider the reality of the world you live in. Like the ostrich, your defense is only in your own mind. At some point, you will be run down, and you will be helpless because you cannot accept it. I add my prayers to Chris's in the hope that God will open your eyes before it is too late.

As for the twins: my decision is not to let them die, and likewise not to kill one for the sake of the other. I would have saved them both. The surgeons made the mistake of not trusting God, and the Parents made the mistake of thinking there was nothing they could do. I fully believe that God could have and would have saved those children, both of them, had we let Him.

As for your storm problem: you forget, God is not bound by time. He need not make the storm vanish in an instant; He could make it never have existed in the first place.

Oh, and about Moses: Your quaint little theory explains very little. A volcanic eruption may have created three days of darkness, if that was the method God chose to use. What of the frogs, locusts, plagues upon the cattle, and, of course, the Angel Of Death? A volcanic eruption does not explain them at all. Nor does it cover the Red Sea, as the bible clearly states that "the waters were as a wall to the left of them, and a wall to the right of them, but they passed through on dry land." I give you a B for effort, but you have regrettably failed miserably in your attempt to explain away one of the great biblical mysteries.

Daniel2, I expect that you will continue with your close-minded pontificating, but I suggest you think it through more thoroughly. Your points have more holes than the plot in Dungeons And Dragons.

NP: Emperor’s New Groove, Debney

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Originally posted by DANIEL2:
Maybe tomorrow, or perhaps 10,000 years from now, that island in the Atlantic will collapse into the ocean creating a tidal wave 100 feet high that will devastate the eastern seaboard of the United States.
And when it does happen, the last thing people will be doing is quibbling over the correct terminology.

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HA! This coming from the Grand High Pedant himself! Wassamatta? Anyone ELSE slips up, you use it as an excuse to invalidate their arguments on the grounds of basic stupidity!

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Originally posted by DANIEL2:
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...or perhaps 10,000 years from now, that island in the Atlantic will collapse into the ocean creating a tidal wave 100 feet high that will devastate the eastern seaboard of the United States

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Aw crud! The exact date I planned my vaction on too!

AHHHHHHHH! MY ARM PITS ARE ON FIRE!!!!!!!

Thank you and God bless.

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Be sure to take your surfboard with you, then.

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I can't surf! And Charlie can't either!

Every one! All together now:

WEEEEEEAAAAAK!!!!!

As we embark a new a thread, let us not ask what the thread can do for you, but what you can do for this thread.

"The lesson of all this was, of course, that because we're a great nation, our challenges seem complex. It will always be this way. But as long as we remember our first principles and believe in ourselves, the future will always be ours. And something else we learned: Once you begin a great movement, there's no telling where it will end. We meant to change a nation, and instead, we changed a world."

UNCA PETERK: Packed up in the archives, never to be seen from again.

SMALL BOY: But what if I really, really like that topic, like the "? for Unca PeterK?"

PETERK: Well, little Timmy...

SMALL BOY: My name's not Timmy.

PETERK: Right. Bobby...

SMALL BOY: No.

PETERK: Billy?

SMALL BOY: No!

PETERK: Any way Billy, they say when a new topic is started with the same spirit as the old one, and angel gets it's wings!

SMALL BOY: Really?

PETERK: No, but have some fish chips Billy.

That is all.

Did I mention that I love the JC Penney catalog.

Bye bye dex! BYE BYE!

BUH BYE.

NP: Explorers

BUH BYE...

And art thou gone, beloved Ghost?
Best of Familiars!
Nay, then, farewell, my duckling roast,
Farewell, farewell, my tea and toast,
My meerschaum and cigars!

The hues of life are dull and gray,
The sweets of life insipid,
When thou, my charmer, art away--
Old Brick, or rather, let me say,
Old Parallelepiped!

And now, for a more sentimental ending from Sylvie and Bruno (also by Carroll). This may be overdoing it by applying it to this thread, but anything goes here, right?....

"Come, it is nearly morning!" Arthur said at last, rising and leading the way upstairs.

"The sun will be rising in a few minutes: and, though I have basely defrauded you of your last chance of a night’s rest here, I’m sure you’ll forgive me: for I really couldn’t bring myself to say 'Good night' sooner. And God knows whether you’ll ever see me again, or hear of me!"

"Hear of you I am certain I shall!" I warmly responded, and quoted the concluding lines of that strange poem 'Waring' :--

"Oh, never star
Was lost here, but it rose afar
Look East, where whole new thousands are!
In Vishnu-land what Avatar?"

"Aye, look Eastward!" Arthur eagerly replied, pausing at the stair-case window, which commanded a fine view of the sea and the eastward horizon. "The West is the fitting tomb for all the sorrow and the sighing, all the errors and the follies of the Past: for all its withered Hopes and all its buried Loves! From the East comes new strength, new ambition, new Hope, new Life, new Love! Look Eastward! Aye, look Eastward!"

His last words were still ringing in my ears as I entered my room, and undrew the window-curtains, just in time to see the sun burst in glory from his ocean-prison, and clothe the world in the light of a new day.

"So may it be for him, and me, and all of us!" I mused. "All that is evil, and dead, and hopeless, fading with the Night that is past! All that is good, and living, and hopeful, rising with the dawn of Day!

"Fading, with the Night, the chilly mists, and the noxious vapours, and the heavy shadows, and the wailing gusts, and the owl’s melancholy hootings: rising, with the Day, the darting shafts of light, and the wholesome morning breeze, and the warmth of a dawning life, and the mad music of the lark! Look Eastward!

"Fading, with the Night, the clouds of ignorance, and the deadly blight of sin, and the silent tears of sorrow: and ever rising, higher, higher, with the Day, the radiant dawn of knowledge, and the sweet breath of purity, and the throb of a world’s ecstasy! Look Eastward!

"Fading, with the Night, the memory of a dead love, and the withered leaves of a blighted hope, and the sickly repinings and moody regrets that numb the best energies of the soul: and rising, broadening, rolling upward like a living flood, the manly resolve, and the dauntless will, and the heavenward gaze of faith--the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen!

Who could ever forget HIM?

Looo - hoooo - zuh - her.