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PeterK
FishChip
Lou, thanks for all the criticisms (and compliments!?). I think you are overstating when you say this board is in a hopeless state. If it were in a hopeless state, I would be the only one lingering here.About this thread: I didn't create it. It became what it is on its own. If there is anyone to blame for this, it's everyone who has posted here.
Frankly, I think it's fun! And sure, it can be serious. So, what's on your mind, Lou? We'll take a jab at anything you'd like to discuss, if you shoot us a question or comment.
Do I speak for everyone here? Everyone agree?
posted 11-02-2000 12:41 PM PT (US) PeterK
FishChip
John. "36" Cherry pop tarts, please.
posted 11-02-2000 12:44 PM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
Ugh. I've been out-voted.
Strawberry! (Come on, somebody back me up here!)NP: Masada Complete, Goldsmith/Stevens. I listened to the whole thing (all 100+ minutes of it) and started it over again right away! What a great score! (I'll admit the Goldsmith stuff is better than Stevens' work, but Stevens used Jerry's incredible theme, so it's still good.)
posted 11-02-2000 01:11 PM PT (US) JJH
Member
I'm rather fond of blueberry pop tarts, too.
NP -- Symphonie No. 5, Mahler, on DVD - sweet!posted 11-02-2000 01:25 PM PT (US) Mark Hatfield
Member
In the important Strawberry Pop Tarts vs. Cherry Pop Tarts, I have to come down on the side of Strawberry.However, I find it increasingly disheartening that the quintessential American goodness of the Brown Sugar/Cinnamon Pop Tarts goes unmentioned by others at this board. C'mon, people! If we can't talk about this, what CAN we talk about?
posted 11-02-2000 03:52 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
It's possible that I'm the only one here old enough to remember when Pop-Tarts were first introduced to an unsuspecting public, ignorant of the fact that they had been previously deprived of this culinary gem.
I remember those initial TV ads, featuring a thick & juicy looking filling (kinda like the way McDonald's Quarter Pounders look on TV, compared to the real thing!). Then I BOUGHT a pack...WHOA, Baby! Gimme that phone! False advertising claims INCOMING!
THIS SKINNY THANG IS A POP TART?Wasn't impressed. Haven't had one since.
Perhaps there have been some improvements.Should I try them AGAIN, fellas?
If so...what flavor do you recommend?
posted 11-02-2000 04:17 PM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
Member
I like the Frosted Cherry Pop Tarts myself.
posted 11-02-2000 04:37 PM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
Mark: Brown Sugar/Cinnamon pop tarts are good.
S'Mores are, too.Chris: forget the ads. Just Give Pop-Tarts A Chance.
NP: Lost In Space, Broughton
posted 11-02-2000 04:55 PM PT (US) Wedge
Member
I'm with John. Fruit-based pops are nice, but they get too unnatural-tasting after a while. Chocolate pops are the way to go. Especially the ones with vanilla creme in the middle. Mmmmmmmmm ... chocolatey.
posted 11-02-2000 07:36 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
"Especially the ones with vanilla creme in the middle. Mmmmmmmmm ... chocolatey."WEDGE, STOP IT! That's just NOT FAIR! It's after 12 midnight, and there is NO WAY for me to get one of those things right now!
...and I'm hungry...
posted 11-02-2000 09:08 PM PT (US) Lou Goldberg
Member
Pete, the board's not a mess, but this topic, fun or not, isn't where I care to speak about things. I was reacting to the fact that you closed the Bush or Gore topic. I don't think you should have. If you stretch it, who becomes president does have an effect on the culture and on film and on film scoring, but even if it has nothing to do with the topic, I still think people should have been free to post that topic without the axe coming down on it. Over here, it seems the current debate (mockingly) is over which pop tart to pick (which I think is ultimately far more important than who becomes president anyway). I've had both and never gave it much thought about which is better. I guess I'm glad I get to have both. I suppose if it had to be one over the other it would be cherry. I have a sweet tooth. I'm glad we can talk about pop tarts, but what would happen if I started a fresh new board topic about it?
posted 11-03-2000 02:51 AM PT (US) JJH
Member
personally, if I'm gonna discuss politics and religion, I'll go somewhere thank you.I don't need to do it and make people who don't share my obviously flawed conservative views hate me.
that and I just don't wanna have to, yet again, punch holes in liberal's theories.
That stuff's no good for anyone at a place such as this. ;-)
Just look to FSM and what the venerable Andre Lux has started over there.
Now, I am going to pick up some little chocolate donuts, cuz I'm hungry and have nothing in the house to eat, dammit.
NP -- Lake Placid
posted 11-03-2000 06:48 AM PT (US) PeterK
FishChip
Lou, if you or anyone else started a fresh new board topic about pop tarts, I would drop my axe and pick up my chainsaw.The majority of the group has asked for no politics and no religion, except for in this thread. I think it's wise. One innocent, well-written post on politics in the general boards can easily spawn into tens and tens of other threads, where people want to start a discussion with their opinion. I might think the message boards would venture near hopeless....
posted 11-03-2000 08:39 AM PT (US) Probable
Member
NP American History X - 'Playing To Win' rocks.
posted 11-03-2000 09:41 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
Member
I'd like to post something here, but for days I haven't had an idea WHAT to post. I didn't even find the time yet to read those poems from the previous page.NP: Kundun (Philip Glass)
posted 11-04-2000 05:47 PM PT (US) Camillu
Member
quote:
Originally posted by Probable:
NP American History X - 'Playing To Win' rocks.Probably the best thing said on page 36. (IMO)
Goodnight.
posted 11-04-2000 06:00 PM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
Words of wisdom for today:"Reality is completely subjective."
--Me. Someone else may have said this at some point, too.
NP: Medal Of Honor, Giacchino
posted 11-04-2000 06:57 PM PT (US) James
Member
"Lead your life so you would not be ashamed to sell the family parrot to the town gossip."- Will Rogers
posted 11-05-2000 11:01 AM PT (US) Observer
Member
"Among the few consolations of what has been called writer's block is the assurance that,
so long as one has it, one is, indeed, a writer."
--Thomas Lynch
posted 11-05-2000 11:45 AM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
"Many things aren't worth repeating because most things aren't worth saying to begin with."
--Me also. I love quoting myself. (In fact, I think I posted this quote earlier in this thread, at the end of some other post.)
posted 11-05-2000 01:23 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
Gentlemen, my personal odyssey into the World of Pop Tarts has begun.
Yesterday, I brought home a box of Chocolate with Vanilla Creme filling.
My first experiment was to taste-test the Pop Tart straight out of the box:Not impressed.
The filling pictured on the box is yet another case of totally false advertising (HOW DOES THE KELLOG COMPANY GET AWAY WITH THIS???), as the actual "Vanilla Creme" filling is merely a thin white line less than 1/64th of an inch thick. The frosting tastes OK, but not good enough to offset the pasteboard flavor of the chocolate crust.WEDGE...YOU REALLY LIKE THESE???
NEXT: I heat it in the Microwave to see if there's any improvement!
posted 11-05-2000 03:38 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
Member
"I'm hungry"- Me. Maybe not quite as intellectual as some of the previous quotes, but very real and important to me nevertheless.
NP: Gustav Mahler: Symphony #2 "Resurrection" (London Symphony Orchestra, Leonard Bernstein)
posted 11-05-2000 03:46 PM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
Marian: That's existentialism at it's best!
posted 11-05-2000 04:48 PM PT (US) Wedge
Member
Stop it, Chris, you're making me hungry! ... You gonna eat those?
posted 11-06-2000 08:23 AM PT (US) Pete M
Member
Oh. I've never had any Pop Tarts. And it's almost time for dinner, so you're all making me really hungry you nasty lot.Still, I have got a nice juicy sirloin steak in the fridge for dinner. Mmmmmmm!
np Goblin - Profondo Rosso
posted 11-06-2000 09:32 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
Member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by John Dunham:
Marian: That's existentialism at it's best!<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>Unless you ignore the hunger and DON'T eat - because in that case, you will cease to exist. (would this be nihilism, or what??)
NP: The Doors Concerto
[Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 11-06-2000]
posted 11-06-2000 10:58 AM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Unless you ignore the hunger and DON'T eat - because in that case, you will cease to exist. (would this be nihilism, or what??)I don't think it would be Nihilism; I don't see how that would apply. "Starvation" is the best word. But why do you think death would be the end of existence?
"To die would be a great adventure."
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreampt of in your philosophy."
NP: First Night, Goldsmith
posted 11-06-2000 11:45 AM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
OK Wedge...
Of the 8 Pop Tarts in the box, 3 have been consumed.
One was eaten straight from the wrapper.
One was microwaved (OOH! LOOK! The creme "filling" puffs up to nearly 1/32 of an inch!).
One was toasted.
That leaves 5 remaining in the box.
Email me your address, Wedge.
They'll be sent out via Priority in the morning.You guyz gotta learn what a REAL pastry is!
posted 11-06-2000 04:18 PM PT (US) Jack
Member
Chris: Wedge might not even know about Tastykakes...Are you sure he can handle it?
[Message edited by Jack on 11-07-2000]
posted 11-06-2000 07:48 PM PT (US) James
Member
Why are all the candidates this election year so uptight about education? It seems fine to me.
posted 11-06-2000 08:36 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
BULLZEYE, Jack!Even a TWO-WEEK-OLD TastyKake puts that ridiculous Pop Tart to SHAME!
posted 11-06-2000 08:36 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
Member
I'm just having the TV on in the background with a special about the US elections. Imagine my surprise when I noticed that a bit of the background music is a remix of Randy Edelman's Dragonheart theme!And could someone please explain how the elections work? I don't really understand the system.
posted 11-07-2000 05:15 PM PT (US) DjC
Member
This election is so damned exciting, at least today, voting day is and or was, I was hooting at the TV when they re-called Florida since it could not be dicided, GO CHENEY!, i mean Bush...hehe.It is a giant chess game, and or a football game, and it CAN be very exciting, especially since it is only our future and all.
posted 11-07-2000 10:02 PM PT (US) DeadPoet
Member
Wow! What an election! Very exciting indeed. I'm happy with the result, too. I think Bush will do a fine job as President (at least better than Gore could've done). I didn't like either candidate to a great extent, but I think Bush is the better choice. And, thus, I voted for him. I'm also glad that I won't have to hear the words "lock box" anymore!--Jason S.
posted 11-07-2000 11:43 PM PT (US) DeadPoet
Member
Well, apparently there might be a recount for Florida now. So Bush hasn't officially won. It just keeps getting crazier...and the election goes on...--Jason S.
posted 11-08-2000 01:17 AM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
Member
Rocco you haven't been messing with the boxes in Florida have you??????Or maybe Godzilla destroyed the polls????
Judging by what I'm hearing this morning this whole elction may turn into one big legal mess.
posted 11-08-2000 09:31 AM PT (US) JJH
Member
Marian asked the American system to be
explained. I, JJ, who taught it for 2 years, will now do so.*ahem*
First, the voters consume Cherry Pop Tarts.
but seriously though...We have what's called an electoral college system. Electors are people designated by the major political parties to vote DIRECTLY for the President. There are I believe 538 electoral votes up for grabs in any election, 270 being the number needed for a majority.
Each state is assigned a certain number of electors based on it's population, or the combined number of Senators and Representatives it has in Congress. So, Montana, for example has 3 electors: 2 Senators, and 1 Representative = 3 electors for that State. (It's a sparsely populated State, so it has just the one Rep., but each State is guaranteed 2 Senators to help balance the population heavy states.)So, since Montana's State population voted Republican, the 3 Republican party electors will then cast their vote in the Electoral College in December. States with huge populations like California, New York, Florida, Michigan, Texas are all prime territory for candidates because the electoral system is Winner-take-all, which means all the electors are going to be from one party (the one that wins) and are likely to vote for their party (they don't have to technically, but they'll never work for that Party ever again, rest assured).
In most elections, the Electoral College vote is merely a formality, becuase we usually have elections go heavily one way or the other.The whole system was designed to prevent several things:
Huge majoritarian victories:
yes, this happens all the time in Presidential elections, BUT, Much of the urban population on either coast vote one way, while middle America (which has less population as you know) tends to vote another. And these coastal areas are densely populated.
It is a way of making sure that those in the mid-west and heavily agricultural states like Kansas and Nebraska have a say so in who is elected. Otherwise, LA, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, and other urban centers would solely be deciding the election, which is not good for anyone in a democracy.
and along with that ideal is the prevention of corruption, where political machines can start up and "influence" voters.As you can see, this election plainly illustrates that it doesn't matter how many States you win, but WHICH States you win. Looking strictly at the map, you see a sea of Bush red, but look how tight the electoral race is.
The winner of Florida will win this election, because as it stands, Oregon doesn't push anyone over the top
hope this helpsNP -- nothing
posted 11-08-2000 11:43 AM PT (US) James
Member
Oops.[Message edited by James on 11-08-2000]
posted 11-08-2000 04:07 PM PT (US) James
Member
Do any of you here believe in Tecumseh's Curse? It's a zero-year.For those of you not aware of the curse, here's how it works...
The history:
In 1811 (the year before the war), two Native Americans, the Prophet and his brother, Tecumseh, tried to unite the Shawnee tribes and rid themselves of alcohol, the curse of the white men.American leaders of the time saw this as British intervention against the U.S., so they sent Gov. William Henry Harrison to stop it, and during the battle of Tippercanoe slaughtered the Shawness, discredited the Prophet, and in a later battle killed the Prophet.
In 1840, Harrison was elected President after a campaign based on slaughter of Indians. The enraged Tecumseh put a curse on Harrison, and allegedy, every president elected in a year ending in 0 (zero) will die an untimely and unusual death.
The result?
- After a month in office, William Henry Harrison dies of pneumonia.
- Lincoln, elected in 1860, is assassinated.
- Garfield, elected in 1880, is shot. He appears to be recovering, but dies in a sudden hemmmorhaging.
- McKinley, re-elected in 1900, is shot twice by a deranged anarchist and dies 8 days later.
- Harding, elected in 1920, suffers a sudden, unexpected heart attack.
- Roosevelt, re-elected in 1940, dies in his third term of cerebral hemmorhaging.
- Kennedy, elected in 1960, is assassinated.
- Reagan, elected in 1980, is the first to break the curse, but he narrowly escapes an assassination attempt.Hmmm.....
[Message edited by James on 11-09-2000]
posted 11-08-2000 04:15 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
Member
Thanks for clearing this up, JJ. I figured this was how it works, but was surprised at first, because I thought you elect your president directly.James, interesting. Never heard of that curse. We'll see what happens.
NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #2 (National Symphony Orchestra of Ireland, Georg Tintner) - online, from the Naxos website - and just before I read that Tintner was born in Austria!
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