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Mark Olivarez
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Hmmm James, maybe AlGore should take the office and spare our Governor.[Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 11-09-2000]
posted 11-09-2000 10:29 AM PT (US) John Dunham
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Curses! My, what an intersting topic.
One thing troubles me, though. How many presidents NOT elected in "0" years have died untimely deaths?NP: Works: I - Hisaishi. More! I must have more!
posted 11-09-2000 11:49 AM PT (US) Marc Flake
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I believe these were the only presidents to die in office (not Reagan).Marc
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posted 11-09-2000 01:09 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
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I definitely believe in curses.
They are as powerful as the faith of the person doing the cursing. The Bible teaches that our words are powerful, even creative. Jesus used His words to bless and heal, but He also used them to curse (Matthew 21:18).
Believers in the occult are very familiar with curses, because that's what they do.
The Kennedy family was cursed when Joseph Sr. evicted a Gypsy woman from one of his properties. She and her children were put out in the street, and Old Joe mocked the woman as she begged him to reconsider. So, since he had done this to her children, she laid a curse on HIS children!
We've all seen that one at work.
In order to break such a curse, you must attack it with something more powerful; the Word of God.
posted 11-09-2000 02:08 PM PT (US) John Dunham
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc Flake:
I believe these were the only presidents to die in office (not Reagan).
MarcWell, it merely specified "untimely and unusual" not "in-office."
NP: Works: I, Hisaishi. Fourth time around, and I like it more with every play!
posted 11-09-2000 02:30 PM PT (US) Marc Flake
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I guess it depends on what your definition of "untimely and unusual" is.Marc
posted 11-10-2000 07:36 AM PT (US) John Dunham
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Yeah.. for example, if Gore AND Bush BOTH died RIGHT NOW, along with anyone who ran with them or was involved in their campaigns, it would be "timely and unusual."NP: Works: I, Hisashi. Been in my player pretty much constantly since yesterday. Note to self: go by more Hisaishi stuff! Note to everyone else: go by more Hisaishi stuff!
posted 11-10-2000 11:28 AM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
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Back to the topic of curses.
Did you know that Orson Welles was cursed?
His first film, Citizen Kane had not yet been released, and his second film, The Magnificent Ambersons had finished shooting, and was in post-production when Welles travelled to South America to produce a documentary film.
While filming there, Welles took footage of South American tribal rites, including shots of a highly feared witch doctor. When the witch doctor realized that Welles had captured him on film, he asked Welles to destroy the footage of him. Welles refused. The witch doctor cursed his work, telling him that he will fail in his every endeavor.
During that time he spent in South America, Citizen Kane became a financial failure because of William Randolph Hearst's blackballing, the final cut of The Magnificent Ambersons was butchered by the studio in Welles's absence, and finally Orson Welles...one of the world's greatest cinematic talents, NEVER had any success in the medium.
Welles remembered the curse, and while he never mentioned it in public, his circle of friends knew all about it.
He travelled back to South America, trying to find the witch doctor who had cursed him, but he was unsuccessful.
posted 11-10-2000 09:32 PM PT (US) Scott
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Ok,so here we are. Let me start from the beginning, so bear with me...
Years ago a book showed up in Christians bookstores dealing with the rapture. Called "Left Behind", it dealt primarily with the dissapearance of millions of Christians around the world before the events described in the bible under revelations. Although fiction, the overall occurances in the story are very faithful to bible prophecy.
The book was fast paced, exciting and very well written. It was suspense, thriller and international catastrophy all in once. So successful was the book that it spawned a series which is still running, making it the best selling Christian liturature second only to the bible.
Around a year ago the rights to the movie were sold and production began under a Christian film company.
Although the movie won't be released in theaters until Feburary 2nd 2001, it is currently available on video in several Christian stores. As to the reasons of this, I will get to later.
The movie is very well made. It is hard to critique a film based on a book that I have read and treasured for so long. But I am amazed how faithful the movie is to the book without being boring. Fast pased without being confusing or even preachy it even held the attention of my eleven year old nephew (and that says a lot).
The score was well composed, especially the last two minutes or so. The film is laced with many Christian Rock -Pop songs that actually fit well into the overall story, although I am not a big fan of songs in movies.
Now to the video part. Since the company producing this film does not have the marketing power or money of the major Hollywood studios their plan is to have all the original readers of the book see the movie and wittness the quality of it. Then, when the film is released we are to invite friends to join us in seeing the movie (the video includes two matinee tickets). The plan is to create a big opening weekend for this movie, proving to Hollywood that films of this nature can be successful and that there is an audience for it.
There is more to it so I invite all of you to go to the websites www.leftbehind-themovie.com and www.cloudtenpictures.com.
I am currently getting involved in this effort so if you need more info regarding this or just want to see what I am planning to do e-mail me under Calharra.sc@verizon.com or Calhouness@hotmail.com.
I am excited about this and hope to get as many people involved in this effort as possibble.
Scottposted 11-11-2000 02:17 AM PT (US) John C Winfrey
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James, just a few additions to your 20 year jinx stuff:1. Roosevelt was elected in 1932, '36, '40 and '44, so in his fourth term. Died in 1945.
2. W.H. Harrison gave an overlong speech for his inaugeration in the rain and sleet without any cover and got sick thus resulting in the pneumonia.
3. Lincoln relected in 1864 and shot in April 1865
4. As you pointed out most of the rest were shot or died in the term elected in 0 year.
Some of the deaths may or may not be untimely. Very interesting, but not necessarily a curse. Best, John.
Oh yes, on the pop tarts, my friend Chuck Crenshaw and I used to joke about how nutritious pop tarts and vienna saugage were. He and I were always joking about how good it was for your health. Take care, JW.
posted 11-11-2000 05:34 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Funny bit of trivia: Vienna sausages are called Frankfurter sausages in Vienna (and the rest of Austria)NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #2 (National Symphony Orchestra of Ireland, Georg Tintner)
posted 11-11-2000 07:10 AM PT (US) Camillu
Member
Yesterday was the first time that Moviemusic affected my life in a non-soundtrack way.I went to buy Pop-Tarts!
They're new to the island, but I had your recommendations to help.
And now they're all gone.
posted 11-11-2000 11:54 AM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
Wedge...you're not gonna BELIEVE this!BONITA LOVES THE POP TARTS!
As she munched on one of those chocolate tarts with vanilla creme filling, she said, "Tell Wedge he picked GOOD!
It's true!
posted 11-11-2000 07:12 PM PT (US) James
Member
JohnThanks. I'm well aware of all the facts, and I don't believe in the curse myself, but I just thought it would be fun to bring up. And I was too tired and lazy to type anything more.
It got a discussion going though!
James
NP - Animaniacsposted 11-11-2000 09:08 PM PT (US) Wedge
Member
Chris: I don't even need to TOUCH that one. I'm sure Joan would have something clever to say about wively wisdom, though.Mmmmm ... Pop-Tarts.
You couldn't pay me to eat a Kraft Single, though! "American" cheese just means it's artificial ... like everything ELSE in America. At least Pop-Tarts are real sugar and fat!
posted 11-12-2000 08:35 PM PT (US) Pete M
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quote:
Originally posted by Camillu:I went to buy Pop-Tarts!
They're new to the island, but I had your recommendations to help.
And now they're all gone.
Were they good then? I've never tried them - do you think I should give them a go?
np Rambo 3posted 11-13-2000 07:06 AM PT (US) Quill
Member
Mmmmm...pop tarts....try the brown-sugar ones...!
posted 11-13-2000 07:29 AM PT (US) Camillu
Member
Yes, they were good. Not extremely good, but good. And coming from a no-sweet-tooth person, that's a recommendation.I had the strawberry ones, so I'm not sure if the others are better. Oh, and they taste much better once toasted.
However, I still prefer bananas.
NP - Shakespeare in Love
(shouldn't track 3 be 'A Plague ON both your houses?)
posted 11-13-2000 10:30 AM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
"You couldn't pay me to eat a Kraft Single, though! "American" cheese just means it's artificial ... like everything ELSE in America."Whoa...Bruthah Wedge, BABY!
Such ignorance AND arrogance existing so closely together!You know I love you, Wedge...but PUHLEEZE! If you classify a Kraft Single as "American Cheese"...well, you need to learn a few things about cheeses!
And as to that comment about EVERYTHING in America being artificial?
The last time I checked, YOU were living here with the rest of us automatons!CHEESH, man!
Did you roll out on the wrong side of the bed?
We need to get you a date...FAST!posted 11-14-2000 02:00 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
CAN ANYBODY HELP?
WE NEED TO GET WEDGE A WOMAN!I BELIEVE HE'S BEGINNING TO SHOW SIGNS OF THE EARLY STAGES OF ADVANCED BACHELORITIS.
ONE OR TWO HOT DATES SHOULD CALM HIM DOWN CONSIDERABLY.
posted 11-14-2000 02:04 PM PT (US) JJH
Member
when you find him one, can you work on me next, please?signed,
JJ the Horny bastard
posted 11-14-2000 09:03 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
OK, JJH...I suppose I should consider starting a film-score related dating service.Thinking...thinking...
posted 11-14-2000 09:27 PM PT (US) Observer
Member
Hey, has anyone else downloaded and started using Netscape 6? I'm using it now and it's pretty cool. The themes are nice, as well as the sidebar feature. I'm still testing it, and I've only crashed once (supposedly N6 has problems with this...). I don't know if I'll fully commit to it and leave IE 5.5, (IE is faster, less buggy and complies better to most web design standards), but still, I have to compliment the folks at Netscape for a job well done, at least for now...
posted 11-15-2000 03:23 PM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
I myself try to use only the AOL browser when possible. Call me paranoid, but Windows 98 has internet explorer built into the operating system; I'm afraid that if I use IE, it will send covert data back to microsoft.
I haven't actually tried using netscape; for all I know, my system might reject it.NP: Into Thin Air: Death On Everest Suite
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posted 11-15-2000 03:47 PM PT (US) jonathan_little
Member
I'm using Netscape 6 right now. It hasn't crashed on me yet (after about a day of use.)I love Kraft "singles," too.. and Pop-Tarts!
posted 11-15-2000 08:24 PM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
Member
Jonathan, listen carefully:DROP THAT KRAFT SINGLE RIGHT NOW. DROP IT!
NOW...go to the nearest deli and ask for a half pound of American Cheese, sliced thinly.
Take the cheese home, and perform a blindfolded taste test (Someone else should blindfold you). Taste the two cheeses, and choose the one that tastes the best. The creamiest, smoothest, sweetest and most full-flavored. Choose that one. Then pitch those rotten "Singles" in the garbage.
posted 11-15-2000 08:33 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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A question, not only for PeterK: Where's Rocco!?NP: War of the Gargantuas (Akira Ifukube) - Thanks, Mark!
posted 11-16-2000 03:27 PM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
I wondered why this thread had lost momentum... Where IS Rocco?NP: Medal Of Honor: Undergound, Giacchino
posted 11-16-2000 04:11 PM PT (US) jonathan_little
Member
Chris, I do agree that the deli cheese is best, but Kraft Cheese Singles are much better than what evil ARAMARK serves us (horrid college food). $1200/semester for that crap... Ick.
posted 11-16-2000 04:13 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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I don't like cheese. But I believe I've said that before on one of the 36 previous pages...NP: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Vol. 2 - The Unreleased Music (John Williams) - Thanks, Mark!
posted 11-16-2000 04:22 PM PT (US) James
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The Governer- I mean Marian and I agree on this issue. I am not fond of cheese at all.
posted 11-16-2000 09:58 PM PT (US) Lou Goldberg
Member
I love pop tarts but there is no way I would eat American cheese of any kind (except maybe in a Grilled Cheese sandwich prepared at a deli). Viva cheddar, provolone, colby-jack, mozzarella, even brie and camenbert but American cheese. Nyet!NP: Godzilla vs Mothra (1962) (Akira Ifukube) Thanks Mark.
posted 11-16-2000 10:04 PM PT (US) Pete M
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Cheeeeeeese. Nice. Cheese good. Mmmmmmmmmm. Red Leicester - the best of cheeses. Oh yes. Mmmmmmmmm.
np Shostakovich 7 (World Orch. 4 Peace/Gergiev)posted 11-17-2000 02:55 AM PT (US) Chris Kinsinger
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Marian, I've been wondering about Rocco as well. I haven't run into a Rocco post for weeks and weeks!
As to the subject of cheese...I have always loved ALL cheeses! American is fabulous melted in an omelette or chowder. It's also excellent on top of a freshly-grilled Chicago style hamburger. Cheddar is great in a sandwich or with hors d'oeuvres. Feta in a salad. Brie with stone ground whreat crackers. Swiss & Provolone are wonderful with just about anything.I LOVE CHEESE!
posted 11-17-2000 06:57 PM PT (US) John Dunham
Member
I've aways prefered Swiss Cheese. Extra-Extra-Sharp Cheddar is good, too.NP: Medal Of Honor Underground, Giacchino
posted 11-18-2000 03:50 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
Member
Ok, let's try this again:
PAPILLON SUCKS!NP: Starship Troopers (Basil Poledouris) - More thanks to Mark
posted 11-18-2000 07:44 AM PT (US) JJH
Member
why don't you get Netscape 7 ?
for me each browser has it's good and bad points.I refer to IE as Internet Exploder, cuz about half the time I get some sort of internal error and the bloody thing shuts down.
Netscape is troublesome only in that many sites conform to IE standards (is that the right term? -- which makes me wonder: why isn't HTML for one browser NOT HTML for another?)
Another topic:
given the mess in Florida, and what Algore is trying to pull, I say we nominate someone from the board for 2004.
But it has to be an outsider. I nominate Timmer.
Hell I've already got his campaign slogan:
Tippecanoe and Timmer Too.
I don't worry about Timmer's legal issues abotu becoming President such as naturalization and all that, because as our illustrious Vice President is pointing out daily, if you have enough money, muscle, and lawyers, you too, can recount until you find a result you like, and change the law on a daily basis to suit your needs.
NP -- Antony & Cleopatra, John Scottposted 11-18-2000 08:33 AM PT (US) H Rocco
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I'm BACK, Marian, I'm BACK ... still relegated to the limited library hours though. How's GARGANTUAS? I think it's relatively monotonous as an album, but as a FILM score it's among his most effective. (Mark's copy actually came from mine. I still treasure the memory of watching the movie with him on the hotel video player in Detroit, and being AMAZED at how much of it he remembered, even though he hadn't seen it in what, twenty years? Mark Hatfield = Photographic Memory.)Speaking of frightening things, I've wanted to mention: I'm convinced I'm living in a haunted house. Only mildly haunted, it's all poltergeist activity: knocks on the doors that don't make sense, the oven keeps turning itself on, and, most impressively, roomie once actually ROARED in his sleep -- a real Pazuzu-quality roar. And he's normally so soft-spoken! Perhaps he does this more often than I think (we normally retire to our rooms around the same time), but I tend to doubt it. I even made a note of this (2:04 AM, EST), and when I told him about it, he had no memory of doing that or dreaming about anything of the kind. He stayed in the common room while I went into his room to demonstrate, and it was SEVERAL tries before I even produced a roar that he could HEAR in there! So it was PLENTY loud!
Basically, I think we have some rather indifferent ghosts in the house. (Roomie's roar was perhaps a dream-level attempt to repel them?)
So: Anyone else have any "haunted" stories?
NP: nothing, it's the library, but I'd happily play "FEEL IN MY HEART" (aka "The Words Get Stuck In My Throat" -- NOT, I might add, an Ifukube composition)
posted 11-18-2000 11:42 AM PT (US) Observer
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Since I am tired of politics, alls I'm going to do is link to this article: http://slate.msn.com/code/BallotBox/BallotBox.asp?Show=11/16/2000&idMessage=6515Discuss.
On another note, what's the concensus on Don Davis' House on Haunted Hill? The movie was awful, but the score seems good enough...
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posted 11-18-2000 04:12 PM PT (US) JJH
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House on Haunted Hill opens with a very cool main title theme, and a terrifying (and wholly original) choral track called "Pencil Neck."the rest is not really worth much of your time. There is some good music towards the end of the album, but all the filler is really just not that rewarding a listen.
NP -- The Blue Max, Goldsmithposted 11-18-2000 05:13 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB