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    Topic:   "X-Men" Thank You Bryan and crew

     Crono/Kyp
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    Anyway, just got back from seeing "X-Men" for the first time and let me tell you. One of the best movies I've seen this summer. With the story, cast, crew and yes even score ot back it up, it woun't be best picture, but it will be a highlight of the summer and year.

    The movie is directed wonderfully by Bryan Singer. The the effects are our of this world, you can even tell they it was bluescreen, the vision of Singer comes throuhg to make you beliebe that people have these powers.

    All and all the movie is a **** star film, and unlike "The X-Files" (even thought I am a huge fan of the show, but we all know it wa smade for the fans) ANYONE can walk into this film and enjoy it.

    --Kyp

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    PS: Sorry for any spelling errors, its late, leave me alone good night

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    posted 07-15-2000 11:59 PM PT (US)     

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    Agreed on all counts except for the score. Generic and flat. this movie was good enough to deserve a much more distinctive score. I am looking forward to the next chapter but Micheal Kamen didn't really create a reason why he should have to be the next composer. There's nothing there that ANY composer couldn't come in a pick up on. In fact this franchise needs a musical identity and Kamen left it wide open for someone else to do that.

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    posted 07-16-2000 05:30 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    John Ottman. YES!

    --Kyp

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    posted 07-16-2000 11:48 AM PT (US)     

     MattStar
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    While I thought X-Men was a good film. I think that it suffered from the same malady that Singer's Usual Suspects suffered from, and that is: BAD CASTING.
    I thought Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman (Hugh Who? Where did this guy come from? He was terrific and carried the whole film) were good but almost everyone else was miscast, including Ian McKellen (spelling?, I thought he was too old and he looked old in the film).
    I think this movie could have been perfect if they had not made some of the changes that they did and would have included the costumes from the comic book series. Only Storm looked similar to her comic book counterpart.
    I have the same gripe about The Punisher movie which I thought was really good but could have been better had we seen the Punisher outfit at the climax of the movie.
    As to the score, I like Kamen but the highlight of the score was the end credits. When you see the film make sure you stay and listen to them, because he presents most of his material from the film. The end credits are pretty long but it is well worth it to stay and listen.
    All in all a good film and score.

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    posted 07-16-2000 01:47 PM PT (US)     

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    I personally think this was a perfectly cast film - to choose anyone else for any of the other parts would have resulted in something entirely different. All the comic book chemistry was in place between the characters, especially between Magneto and Xavier. I definitely look forward to the sequel, and I hope all return in their original roles.

    Jeron

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    posted 07-16-2000 05:02 PM PT (US)     

     Mark Olivarez
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    Well according to early box office it took in about $57.5 million so it looks like you might get your sequel.

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    posted 07-16-2000 06:34 PM PT (US)     

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    Yes sir it did!!!! It is now the most grosing movie for an opening weekend (as far as I know) And I cant wair for a sequel, leys hope they keep the same cast and crew.

    --Kyp

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    posted 07-16-2000 10:14 PM PT (US)     

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    The ending could hardly have been a more obvious setup for a sequel ... but for once, I'm looking forward to it.

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    posted 07-16-2000 10:45 PM PT (US)     

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    MattStar,

    Magneto looked right to me. After all, if he was 12 in 1944 and the film took place today, instead of the slightly distant future, he would be 68 years old. He looked just about right for that.

    The rest of the cast looked perfect to me. The reason that Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stuart stand out is that they were the only ones with any real parts. All the rest were almost bit parts.

    I hope that they can keep the same cast for the next film, but I have concerns about Patrick Stuart. He can be difficult to manage at times.

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    posted 07-17-2000 07:45 AM PT (US)     

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    Crono,

    ditto dude.

    Scott

    Well, I would have love to see Rogue fly. As for the costumes, I was initially disapointed, but now I think they made the right descition. Even included the costume issue in a joke. Hilarious.

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    posted 07-17-2000 07:54 AM PT (US)     

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    Speaking of casting, I thought that one character in particular was going to be a throwaway.....TOAD. Mr. Maul himself was a pleasant surprise and has great presence on screen.
    Halle Berry was kinda lame, on the other hand, and had NO presence (except for her breasts). Im not sure the original idea of Angela Basset is any better but it prolly woulda been.
    I think everyone else was ok. Perhaps Magneto looked a little old, but then of course McKellan IS old.

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    Now who all were the other heros we saw?

    Ive never been a big Marvel buff but was that...

    Iceman?

    Human Torch?

    Kitty Pryde?

    Any others?


    Oh and by the way, Kamen's music DID suck!

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    posted 07-17-2000 07:54 AM PT (US)     

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    The film was, in my opinion, perfectly cast indeed. Everyone fit the exact image I expected to see when a certain character's name came up (including Bobby Drake as a young Iceman and Kitty Pryde as a young Shadowcat). I BELIEVE the fire producing character was SUPPOSED to be Pyro (as first of all the Human Torch is NOT a mutant in the classic use of the word and, as was the case with this character, he could not produce fire, but needed a lighter in order to create and them manipulate it.

    There are TWO sequels in the works (both in pre-production) and all the X-Actors are contracted for those two sequels...so...here we go...

    Kamen's music was non-existant in the film...I remember not one single note (and I listened to the cd MANY times in the days prior to the film...I just didn't recognize any of it there). Kamen NEEDS to go and not be a part of any future installments. I agree that X-Men needs a distinct musical interpretation...and Kamen failed to give it that (his score was adequately serviceable but did NOTHING to help the overall film in my opinion...which, by the way, I absolutely loved!!!!!!).

    Give ALL the credit to this film's success to Bryan Singer and to the actors who pulled off what COULD have been a horribly cheesy film and created a solid and respectable rendition of a much-loved comic series.

    CONGRATS to Bryan, the actors, the editors and the SFX guys...you did good!

    =)

    Joe

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    posted 07-17-2000 08:56 AM PT (US)     

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    Meegle,

    Bobby Drake is Iceman

    Kate (Short for Katherine) is Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat

    Johnny Storm is Human Torch? I saw the flame thing, but he isn't really a mutant. So I don't know.

    I suspect that was supposed to be Sam Gutherie AKA Cannoball

    Also according to IMDB was a Jubilee cameo

    There were other kids there that could have been other new mutants, but not credited as such.

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    posted 07-17-2000 11:31 AM PT (US)     

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    So who was the kid who was playing a one-man basketball game? I'll have to check the credits at the end and see what's up with that...or ask Bryan to spill the beans...LOL!
    I doubt the fire-boy was Johnny Storm/Human Torch, as in the X-Men Universe, the only fire weilders are Pyro and Firestar (who was initially created as a cartoon character, not a comic character)and Pyro is an older member of...oh god...it's not the Hellfire Club...is it the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants? Oh, mercy, now I'm getting confused. AGAIN. ugh....IS it the Hellfire Club? I don't think so...AAAARGH!!!!

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    posted 07-17-2000 12:36 PM PT (US)     

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    I saw the movie on opening night and it was THE BEST Marvel adaption of any Marvel comic book movie. Blade is up there but I sure love the X-Men more. Even my brother liked it, even though he is definitely not an X-fan.
    Anyway, I just finally notice that Quicksilver was in the movie also. Remember the small basketball game where there was a kid that ran so fast that he was able to pass himself the ball?

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    posted 07-17-2000 12:40 PM PT (US)     

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    Wait...Sunfire was a mutant also...but he was Japanese...

    Gotta LOVE Mutant Lore!

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    posted 07-17-2000 12:40 PM PT (US)     

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    Hadrian: I thought of Quicksilver also, but that would not be possible in terms of the Marvel Universe and continuity sake...as he and his sister The Scarlet Witch are both middle aged (mid-to-late 30's early 40's). My second thought was maybe THAT was Cannonball, but I don't think so. Again, I would HAVE to read the credits...

    According to the Internet Movie Data Base (and we know how reliable THEY can be...), the following non-starting team X-Men appear:

    Bobby Drake (Iceman)
    Kitty Pryde (Shadowcat)
    Jubilee
    Sam Guthrie (Cannonball)
    Piotr Rasputin (Colossus)

    and perhaps others that weren't given X-Names but appeared in the school sequences.

    I will HAVE to see the film again to pick out Colossus...hmmm....

    Okay...enough of me...back to work...any help from the audience is greatly appreciated (I think I'll use one of my lifelines, Regis...)

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    posted 07-17-2000 12:48 PM PT (US)     

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    The kid who could pass the ball to himself...?

    How about NIGHTCRAWLER???

    Does he mutate into that animal thing later? Pardon my X-ignorance!

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    posted 07-17-2000 01:56 PM PT (US)     

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    Enormously pleasing flic. I'm still finding it hard to believe I already saw it twice. Maybe the Magneto domination scenario was too blase for the rest of the pic, but it's overall definitely as good as Superman 1, and Burton's Batman. Excellent casting, anamorphic lensing (all silky smooth instead of the usual gritty Super 35 lensing we've been getting), terrific Corey Yuen choreography, and Kamen's best score in decades-- understated, personal-sounding and powerful, faithful to what the people in the film are about rather than what the audience effect is supposed to be, which probably is a credit to Singer's direction.

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    posted 07-17-2000 03:10 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by JoeInSanDiego:

    Kamen's music was non-existant in the film...I remember not one single note (and I listened to the cd MANY times in the days prior to the film...I just didn't recognize any of it there). Kamen NEEDS to go and not be a part of any future installments. I agree that X-Men needs a distinct musical interpretation...and Kamen failed to give it that (his score was adequately serviceable but did NOTHING to help the overall film in my opinion...which, by the way, I absolutely loved!!!!!!).


    Hey Joe! How is the score on CD, compared to within the film?

    Hopefully, I'll see the film this week, since it sounds totally cool!

    As for the score, I have it on order. However, I have to wonder if I should have seen the film first.

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 07-17-2000 03:21 PM PT (US)     

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    I feel the same way about the music on cd as I do about the music in the film...not all that and nothing that is memorable to me (except the ominous piano that opens the disc and, supposedly, the film, although I tried really hard to listen for it and must have missed it if it was there...).

    Others like the score very much and have called it Kamen's best in a long time...which doesn't mean much to me as I am admitedly NOT a Kamen fan and find his music MUCH too impersonal for my taste. So perhaps you had best get the opinion of others, since I am probably NOT the best person to get a TOTALLY objective opinion from.

    Hope this helps.

    Joe

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    posted 07-17-2000 03:41 PM PT (US)     

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    Joe, thanks for posting your thoughts. I was just wondering what your views were between
    the two.

    As for Michael Kamen, I have only an small portion of his work, but enjoy what I have
    heard so far. Which includes The Iron Giant and even Die Hard with a Vengeance.

    Thanks again.

    Regards,
    Sean Abbey

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    posted 07-17-2000 03:54 PM PT (US)     

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    Looking forward to seeing X-MEN again soon ... only then will I feel competent to weigh in on it. I was impressed as hell. In particular the near-throwaway background details (the mutant kids; extreme long shot of Toad sprinting up the wall of the train station; etc. etc. this is why I have to go back.) I wasn't really sure Singer was up to this particular task, but he pulled it off impeccably.

    Mr. InSanDiego, you show your hand by admitting you don't like Kamen's work anyway. I thought it was an excellent and remarkably subtle score, and in fact, the album does not really do it justice. It should have been twenty minutes longer to catch the whole range of what Kamen built throughout the picture. I rather admired the decision not to go with a big, obvious Fanfare -- or to suffuse the thing with useless, unrelated pop songs. How long's it been since we got a picture like this that wasn't crammed with em? If you liked the score more, you'd be counting your proverbial blessings, I betcha.

    As I've written elsewhere, this is one time I'm actually looking FORWARD to a sequel. (Better be the same people, though -- except, perhaps, for a completely recast, rethought Storm, who was little more than a bit player and barely resembled the original character. This sort of betrays X-MEN's principal flaw: too damn many characters to spread around.)

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    posted 07-17-2000 07:06 PM PT (US)     

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    LET ME TRY AND CLEAR UP SOME OF THESE CAMEOS!

    The fire-wielding kid is indeed Pyro who was an original member of The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. He was NOT Sunfire, because Sunfire is Japanese. He is NOT Cannonball, because Cannonball does NOT wield fire, he only propels himself through the air with a power that bears resemblance to a rocket. He is NOT the Human Torch because Johnny Storm was an astronaut bombarded by radiation on a mission in space, and he is NOT a mutant. Pyro's real name IS in fact John, and he is actually Irish (which would coincide with the kid on screen).

    Jubilee's cameo was in a couple of classroom scenes; she is a Chinese girl with a yellow jacket and GIANT earrings.

    Bobby is indeed Iceman.

    The hot dog vendor [SPOILER] as the Senator emerges from the ocean is Stan Lee.

    As for the kid who passed the basketball to himself, that was NOT Nightcrawler, for various reasons... Kurt Wagner (Nightcrawler) was born with yellow eyes, blue skin, blue hair, three fingers per hand, two toes per foot, and a prehensile blue arrow-tipped tail. There is also a puff of brimstone when he teleports. I don't think they'd take that many unnecessary liberties just for a cameo.

    I doubt the kid who ran on the water was Quicksilver, because (a) Quicksilver has white hair, and (b) he wasn't running abnormally fast, he was just running on water. Besides, even if he HAD been running faster, it would have more likely been Thunderbird, who was actually an X-Man.

    Scott
    Rogue flying who have been cool, but they did a year-one kind of thing with her, and she was not born with the power to fly, nor with superstrength. She later absorbed those powers permanently from Ms. Marvel to save the life of Mystique, who was then Rogue's foster mother (this was at the time when Rogue was a bad guy, she did not join the X-Men until later).

    I did not spot Colossus or Cannonball, but I still have to see the movie at least three more times (I've seen it twice so far).

    James
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    posted 07-17-2000 08:57 PM PT (US)     

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    MWRuger,
    I'm just stuck thinking of Magneto as a middle aged guy in his mid-forties or early fifties like he is presently in the comics.
    But of course, my view is tainted by the fact that in the comics Magneto (who WAS a child in the concentration camps) was reduced to an infant at one time and then restored to an adult but younger than his previous age and at the peak of his powers (which is why the modern Magneto doesn't use The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants anymore, because he doesn't need them).
    I thinks a younger more physically imposing actor could have been better and more faithful to the comics, but of course, it would not have worked with the script for this film. That's another complaint I have with the movie, they made too many changes.
    They pulled it off but it could have been so much better.

    Regarding the music, I saw the movie again tonight and my appreciation for the score grows each time. I think there is a defining theme for the X-Men that is heard a few times during the film and there is a theme for Mystique (or perhaps it is better called a motive) and the lovely theme for Wolverine and Rogue. This is a very complex score that shows a lot of influences from composers like Brahms, Richard Strauss, and Samuel Barber. If you want to hear all the themes, stay through the end credits and Kamen presents most all of them.

    By the way for those of you that have the score, are the ending credits on the cd?

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    posted 07-18-2000 12:42 AM PT (US)     

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    MattStar: NO! And it could have made ALL the difference in the world!

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    posted 07-18-2000 08:30 AM PT (US)     

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    Joe, but think further about it...They've virtually de-aged everybody (with the exception of Jean Grey, who have actually grown older than Scott). The original comic sets Bobby' and Scott' to be of similar age (granted Scott is older). Even Rogue when we first see her in the comic is older than the version we see in the movie. Makes perfect sense to me that they would try to de-age Quicksilver too.
    Jubilee stayed the same because she is young, and was young when she was recruited.
    I think the filmmaker were just trying to please all of us fans by putting as much cameo as possible. But I still don't know where the kid who ran on water came from.

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    posted 07-18-2000 11:30 AM PT (US)     

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    MattStar,

    I know about Magneto's return to childhood. It was in an issue of The Defenders.

    However, I also know that almost no one outside of comic book fans would know it. To have to explain why he was younger than he should have been would have been an unnecessary addition to a movie that might already be hard for non-fans to follow. It would be a distraction.

    I think they made the right decision in making him older as it adds poignancy to his drive to of "Never Again"

    Quite frankly, his plan was insane and doomed to fail even he succeeded in mutating all those heads of state. All he would have done was prove that mutants were the menace that Kelly proclaimed and provoked a world wide response.

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    posted 07-18-2000 03:03 PM PT (US)     

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    MW, you're right, of course. It would have required some explanation had Magneto been a younger man and as I said it would not have worked with this script, just as an older Rogue would not have worked either. I just wish they would have written a script a bit closer to the comic. Still, go see the movie for the score and for Hugh Jackman's performance as Wolverine.

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    posted 07-19-2000 01:05 AM PT (US)     

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    For attempting to squeeze some serious plot points following the comic into *one* movie, I think they did an admirable job--anything more and they would have been *too* esoteric.

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