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BobaMike Oscar® Winner	I read somewhere that the new Hollow Man score is the first of Varese's new recording method. What exactly is it, and how does it sound better? thanks! Bobamike
posted 07-26-2000 07:26 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	Well it's something called DSD encoding. It samples audio at over 20 million times a sec. In all honesty I hear no big differece, in the sound, and in fact I've heard CDs that sound even better, like Star Trek:Insurrection You'll probably hear the difference in the theatre. [This message has been edited by TimT (edited 26 July 2000).]
posted 07-26-2000 10:29 PM PT (US)

Al Oscar® Winner	I don't care for these big proclamations.... "FEATURING NEW DSD TECHNOLOGY: THE CLEAREST, MOST IMPRESSIVE MUSICAL RECORDING OF ORCHESTRAL MUSIC EVER TO MEET YOUR VIRGIN EARS (NOT TO MENTION THAT IT IS USED ON A BRAND-SPANKING NEW GOLDSMITH ACTION/SUSPENSE SCORE!) ...by the way, to achieve this effect, you need a new expensive cd system plus some big speakers." Oh well, at least if the recording sounds anywhere near the quality of ST: Insurrection, I'll be happy. Heck, it's a Goldsmith score. I've been diagnosed with Goldsmithitis, so I'll be just happy with about anything that he composes!
posted 07-26-2000 11:04 PM PT (US)

litmus tester unregistered	Personally, I notice a difference and my system is relatively modest. There is, to borrow a visual term, a 3D quality to the recording. I detect a greater sense of depth...ambience. Which, with this technology in mind, might explain why Goldsmith chose to score more to the atmosphere of the pic, much to the chagrin of those expecting another paint by number soundtrack. But, I suspect if your listening to the CD at a low level this effect will go unnoticed. CRANK IT BOYS + GIRLS!!!
posted 07-26-2000 11:54 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	Can anyone establish whether VARESE chose to record in this fashion, or whether it was just the flavor of the week for the film company that did, after all, pay for the recording itself? I can't imagine that Varese had anything to say about a recording that they didn't pay for themselves. Anybody remember QSound? (I thought not.) (None of which is meant to reflect on HOLLOW MAN in any way, which I haven't yet heard and which is one of the few summer films and scores I've REALLY been looking forward to.)
posted 07-27-2000 12:21 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	The difference will be evident when you crank up the volume. Very smooth and clean at high levels which suits movies just great but also sounds terrific in my car.
posted 07-27-2000 05:47 AM PT (US)

Kris Koon Oscar® Winner	Telarc also recorded their Mega Movies album using DSD, if anyone is interested.
posted 07-27-2000 05:56 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Still haven't got the CD, so I don't know how it sounds. The higher sampling rate probably doesn't have any direct effect on the CD sound quality, because it's still the same old CD format, but the mastering and mixing process might be done with higher quality now. NP: Mulan (Promo)
posted 07-27-2000 07:55 AM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	I remember Q Sound. I thought it was awful! UGH! Muddy and distorted! Thanks HRocco for an unpleasent trip down memory lane!
posted 07-27-2000 12:01 PM PT (US)

mlw Oscar® Winner	You won't get results from DSD recordings until you've mortgaged your house to buy an SACD player from Sony or Phillips. The quality of the format is said to be phenomenally detailed with a convincing representation of subtle transients and the sense of air, as opposed to 16 bit PCM's blockier method, the results sounding closer to analog. Check Richard Hardesty's grudging approval in a recent Widescreen Review. It is aimed to blow apart the DVD Audio platform, basically. I would hold off an a player until the new multi-channel units are ready (the cvurrent Sony ES units are 2 channel only), plus you have to be sure your audio components or receiver will pass the analog signal from the SACD player's outputs without redigitizing it (at a lower bit rate). Cool that Goldsmith is determined to stake out the blade edge of technology (the new concert works album in SACD should rock), but then his scores have been recorded in purist-quality 24 bit digital for some time now. (It's a boon to work with the best ears in professional recording too, in Bruce Botnick) I like the clinical dry acoustic on The Hollow Man disc, it suits the content. [This message has been edited by mlw (edited 27 July 2000).]
posted 07-27-2000 05:21 PM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Oscar® Winner	Q-Sound was something of a failure, although the Holophonics on Roger Water's The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking are fantastic.
posted 07-30-2000 01:03 PM PT (US)

logied Oscar® Winner	I wonder why there is no mention of the new recording method on the CD or am I missing something, Normally they plaster such changes every where.
posted 07-30-2000 01:57 PM PT (US)

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