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Sensemelia and Sensibility is Jane Potsen, not Shakejointe
posted 03-02-2001 12:29 PM PT (US) Probable
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whoops, new page
posted 03-02-2001 12:30 PM PT (US) Probable
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whee, new page fun..."Yes, I killed him. I killed him!
And I scattered his blood to the seas,
and I burnt his flesh, and I set his
soul upon the winds, and I buried
his bones within the bowels of the
earth, so that noone, no god or
demon e'er envisioned by the minds
of men could ever restore him to
his twice-damned and thrice-damnable life."from 'The Wanderer's Tale' by Pete Meadows
Pete Meadows is a.k.a. me, BTW
posted 03-02-2001 12:38 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by Timmer:
Harry 'POT'ter?!Yeah, that occured to me, too. Potter has already been banned by some extrem religious organisations (because they object to the positive portrayal of wizards and witches), who knows what's next...
NP: Basic Instinct (Jerry Goldsmith)
posted 03-02-2001 01:27 PM PT (US) John Dunham
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"Boycott Lord Of The Rings! Go Watch Left Behind instead!"I'm a catholic myself, and I love fantasy. What's wrong with magic?
NP: 13th Warrior, JG *****
posted 03-02-2001 01:36 PM PT (US) jonathan_little
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*** HAVE YOU SEEN ANY SNOW LATELY? ***I don't seem to have enough around here (only 17" over the past 36 hours.) Can somebody point me to the nearest Slush Puppie(r) machine?
posted 03-06-2001 08:14 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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I was just searching for any info on whether and when the remastered 2001 will be released in Austria, when I stumbled upon this on a 2001 message board:quote:
Question:
What is the name of the theme song? Who is the composer?Is it Thus Sprak Zarathustra? Thanks
Answer:
I Could Be Wrong
This is open for debate, but I am fairly certain the main song is "Also Sprach Zarathustra", composed by Richard Strauss.I believe the song is also known simply as "2001: A Space Odyssey".
Ouch!
NP: Not 2001: A Space Odyssey by Richard Strauss
(NP: The Ninth Gate (Wojciech Kilar))[Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 03-12-2001]
posted 03-12-2001 02:59 PM PT (US) Pete M
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Oh, my godness!!!Shocked & stunned.
Stunned & shocked.
What is the world coming to?
np Young Sherlock Holmes
posted 03-13-2001 08:52 AM PT (US) Timmer
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"yeah!, CARMINA BURANA as heard in THE OMEN!posted 03-13-2001 03:12 PM PT (US) H Rocco
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"Carmina Burana" began life as the theme from EXCALIBUR, I believe. Carl Orff did a rip-roaring job on that movie, I must say, even if he WAS kind of copying Goldsmith's approach on THE OMEN. Quite amazing Orff didn't get even an Oscar NOMINATION for that one, but 1981 was a pretty competetive year ...NP: IVAN THE TERRIBLE (James Horner)
posted 03-13-2001 08:59 PM PT (US) James
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I'm with you, Pete. Stocked and shunned, that's what I am.
posted 03-14-2001 08:12 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Shaken & Stirred.
posted 03-15-2001 09:20 AM PT (US) Probable
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ROFL, your 'H'nessFor those of you who don't get the H's sense of humor, let me reduce it to boring data:
Excalibur was indeed made in 1981. The film was scored by Trevor Jones and included classical works by Richard Wagner and Carl Orff. The theme from the film was actually by Wagner (from his opera The Ring ), but Orff's 'O Fortuna' from Carmina Burana is the most recognized piece from the film. Since Orff was 86 at the time of the film's release, and died a year later, for him to score the film would have been...problematic.
Side note: on the Excalibur soundtrack release, 'O Fortuna' has been renamed 'The Siege of Camylarde.'
The low-down on Carmina Burana, the popular theme from which is called 'O Fortuna,' by Carl Orff:
The world premiere was presented in Frankfurt am Main by the Frankfurt Opera on June 8, 1937, with Bertil Wetzelsberger conducting.
Carmina Burana is the first part of a trilogy called 'Trinofi', the other works being 'Catulli Carmina' (on poems by Catullus) and the 'Triumph of Aphrodite' (based on verses by Catullus, Sappho and Euripides).
Carmina Burana (1936), Catulli carmina (1943) and Trionfo di Afrodite (1953) form the parts of a triptych, meant to be performed as "total stage works" where movement, dance, singing, music, speaking and other stage crafts were all combined to produce an overwhelming or thought provoking effect. Lyric latin poems of the middle ages and poems from Roman and Grecian antiquity, mixed with pieces in the vernacular (middle-high German, ancient Provencal and Italian) form the basis of these three works, rich in their diversity, under the title Trionfi since they were first performed in their entirety in Milano's La Scala. Originally Orff never conceived the works as an integral cycle.
The Trionfi is about love in different places, times and circumstances. If you can understand Latin and are easily offended, then care should be taken listening to Catulli Carmina as the lyrics are quite explicit. Most record liner notes just summarise the first section with "The girls and boys get more and more excited...".
Orff also wrote operas.
This concludes the boring data segment of my post. Any further questions may be directed to me, this board, or the nearest blue wall.
posted 03-15-2001 11:51 PM PT (US) Pete M
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I was listening to a tape of Shotakovich's 12th symphony (Leningrad Phil/Mavrinsky) with my parents. For some reason, to fill up the spare space on the end of the tape, I had put the end title to Star Trek:First Contact (why? Like I can remember). And when the Goldsmith came up, my Mums' comment :
quote:
From the sublime to the ridiculous.Ooooooh, that smarts.
The relevence, you may wonder?
Well, I wondered about that too.
posted 03-16-2001 03:34 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Regarding the "explicit content" of Orff's works: In Vienna, they always show classical videos on the place in front of the city hall during the summer months (some great stuff, I suppose they're all laserdiscs. I'd love to have some of them - like the two splendid recordings of the Figaros by Mozart and Rossini - on DVD, but sadly, they haven't been released - yet?). One of the recordings is a production of Carmina Burana, but the visuals make it look like a soft porn movie.
posted 03-16-2001 10:43 AM PT (US) Probable
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Well, it is soft porn, kinda
posted 03-18-2001 10:04 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Yeah, but I wouldn't have expected them to show it that way on a public place.NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #5 (Orchestre Philharmonique de Radio France, Heinrich Hollreiser)
posted 03-19-2001 07:18 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by JJH (on page #1):
AB!
posted 03-19-2001 07:19 AM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
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C???????????
posted 03-19-2001 07:43 PM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Probable:
ROFL, your 'H'nessFor those of you who don't get the H's sense of humor, let me reduce it to boring data:
Excalibur was indeed made in 1981. The film was scored by Trevor Jones and included classical works by Richard Wagner and Carl Orff. The theme from the film was actually by Wagner (from his opera The Ring ), but Orff's 'O Fortuna' from Carmina Burana is the most recognized piece from the film. Since Orff was 86 at the time of the film's release, and died a year later, for him to score the film would have been...problematic.
Side note: on the Excalibur soundtrack release, 'O Fortuna' has been renamed 'The Siege of Camylarde.'
The low-down on Carmina Burana, the popular theme from which is called 'O Fortuna,' by Carl Orff:
The world premiere was presented in Frankfurt am Main by the Frankfurt Opera on June 8, 1937, with Bertil Wetzelsberger conducting.
Carmina Burana is the first part of a trilogy called 'Trinofi', the other works being 'Catulli Carmina' (on poems by Catullus) and the 'Triumph of Aphrodite' (based on verses by Catullus, Sappho and Euripides).
Carmina Burana (1936), Catulli carmina (1943) and Trionfo di Afrodite (1953) form the parts of a triptych, meant to be performed as "total stage works" where movement, dance, singing, music, speaking and other stage crafts were all combined to produce an overwhelming or thought provoking effect. Lyric latin poems of the middle ages and poems from Roman and Grecian antiquity, mixed with pieces in the vernacular (middle-high German, ancient Provencal and Italian) form the basis of these three works, rich in their diversity, under the title Trionfi since they were first performed in their entirety in Milano's La Scala. Originally Orff never conceived the works as an integral cycle.
The Trionfi is about love in different places, times and circumstances. If you can understand Latin and are easily offended, then care should be taken listening to Catulli Carmina as the lyrics are quite explicit. Most record liner notes just summarise the first section with "The girls and boys get more and more excited...".
Orff also wrote operas.
This concludes the boring data segment of my post. Any further questions may be directed to me, this board, or the nearest blue wall.
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Ahhh I see, it all makes sense now Probable, thanks...yawn.......
[Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 03-19-2001]
posted 03-19-2001 07:45 PM PT (US) Probable
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No problem at all. Now, who wants to hear my views on Nietzsche?
posted 03-19-2001 10:26 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by Mark Olivarez:
C???????????WronnnnnnnnnnnnG!
NP: Batman (Danny Elfman)
posted 03-20-2001 07:34 AM PT (US) JJH
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only myself and Marian (grammar?) may post letters of the English alphabet at random.if you have another alphabet, say Greek or Cyrillic, go for it.
C!
Speaking of the Carmina Burana, here is an excerpt of some of the lyrics:
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The road abounds with ample vice:
each will I sample twice.Virtue's a chore I've no need for,
I'll pay damnation's price.To self-indulgence do I turn,
salvation's promise spurn --roast my soul, take Satan his toll,
the flesh is my only concern
golly!posted 03-20-2001 11:48 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by JJH:
only myself and Marian (grammar?) may post letters of the English alphabet at random.Actually, it's Latin.
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if you have another alphabet, say Greek or Cyrillic, go for it.What about Kanji? Too bad the image tag is disabled.
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C!D!
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Speaking of the Carmina Burana, here is an excerpt of some of the lyrics:The road abounds with ample vice:
each will I sample twice.Virtue's a chore I've no need for,
I'll pay damnation's price.To self-indulgence do I turn,
salvation's promise spurn --roast my soul, take Satan his toll,
the flesh is my only concernHmm. Here's the translation of the same lyrics, taken from the booklet of Eugen Jochum's phenomenal recording:
I trave the broad path
as is the way of youth,
I give myself to vice,
unmindful of virtue,
I am eager for the pleasures of the flesh
more than for salvation,
my souls is dead,
so I shall look after the flesh.Very different from your quote, but mine seems to be an exact translation of the Latin original:
Via lata gradior
more iuventutis,
implicor et vitiis
immemor virtutis,
voluptatis avidus
magis quam salutis,
mortuus in anima
curam gero cutis.NP: Batman (Danny Elfman)
[Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 03-21-2001]
[Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 03-21-2001]
posted 03-21-2001 03:22 AM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Mark Olivarez:
[b]C???????????<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>WronnnnnnnnnnnnG!
NP: Batman (Danny Elfman)[/B]
Sorry...sniff....sniff..sniff......(note the trembling bottom lip )
posted 03-21-2001 09:58 AM PT (US) Kross
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I have read the first two Left Behind books just to see what everyone is talking about, or reading about I mean since the books have sold a gadzillon copies...well they stink. Boring, uninspired and dull style fill the books with nothing more than a simple believe and all will be fine message but if you have doubt you will be stuck. I am Christian. The message in Left Behind is too simple. Everyone is guilty of sin, the book seems to forget that, and the ones left behind are left because the authors want them to be, not because God wants them behind.The Left Behind book is too simple for me. I despised it. Boring and unoriginal. BOO!
Please do not start a religion debate! I just hated the two books!
posted 03-21-2001 10:26 AM PT (US) JJH
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yes, Marian, you are correct. the Latin alphabet. As you age, the mind goes and I just turned a year older today, so the effect are starting to take shape.
My translation came from the Robert Shaw recording, which I don't really like. The music is good, but Shaw, even with all his textual precision, declines to give the music any bite.and now my translation is decidedly poor.
damn.
NP -- nothing; 'bout to go out and do some stuffposted 03-21-2001 10:43 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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quote:
Originally posted by JJH:
As you age, the mind goes and I just turned a year older today, so the effect are starting to take shape.H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y ! ! !
Where's Chris? I don't hear him sing!
As for Carmina Burana, I've heard several interpretations, but (and I think I said this before), it seems to me to be a work where one likes one interpretation and hates the rest. The Jochum I have is great (though I guess I'll get the Deutscha Grammophon Originals re-release, too, because it probably has better sound), but all the others I heard sounded sub-par to downright horrible to me.posted 03-21-2001 01:19 PM PT (US) JJH
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why thank you.and I almost forgot:
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NP -- Nobody's Fool, Shore; once again he demonstrates his lyrical abilitiesposted 03-21-2001 08:00 PM PT (US) Probable
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posted 03-23-2001 06:26 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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posted 03-24-2001 05:59 AM PT (US) JJH
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F!¥
posted 03-24-2001 09:24 AM PT (US) Probable
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posted 03-25-2001 11:01 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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quote:
Originally posted by JJH:
F!As that the best you can do?
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NP: The Patriot (John Williams)
posted 03-26-2001 05:43 AM PT (US) Probable
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¡§!
posted 03-27-2001 11:57 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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Ŧħąţ ŵăş ŋijċē¡Does the following work?
₪NP: Anton Bruckner: Symphony #7 (Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache)
posted 03-27-2001 03:27 PM PT (US) Probable
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sure, I think we can allow that.how about the following character?
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posted 03-27-2001 11:27 PM PT (US) JJH
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Disgusting News Item of the Dayposted 03-31-2001 06:20 PM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
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Oh man I'm gonna hurl!!!!!!!
posted 03-31-2001 08:06 PM PT (US) jonathan_little
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Wow.
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