I'd like to mention that I don't start this because I want to be the one who did by any means. But I think it would be a nice idea to add a link to the successor thread in the last message (#2000) of the original thread, so I figured the new one must already exist when the old one comes to it's end.

Here it is.

Please, do NOT post here before the original thread is closed. If you do, I'll ask Peter if he can remove the thread. This should CONTINUE the original thread, so there's no point in posting here too early.

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Please, do NOT post here before the original thread is closed.

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okay.

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Originally posted by JJH:

okay.

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Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
HEHEHEEHHEHEHEHEHE

--Brian/Kyp/Crono/Zidane
Writer & Film/Video Editor

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--Mark/Bob/Jim/Spock/Mailman/Busdriver
Insane Allround ******* Type of Guy

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHHEHEHE

--Brian (Kyp/Crono/Zidane)
Writer & Film/Video Editor

Just THINK before you write, I made my point clear enough.

There.

Hollywood seems to like prequels now...you should join the evolution

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
John, I did of course mean that Rocco and I were the only ones who posted no this thread who didn't post on this thread.
Just THINK before you write, I made my point clear enough.

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Evidently, clear enough is not at all.

--Brian (Kyp, Crono and Zidane)
Writer & Film/Video Editor

the other thread is not quite dead yet.

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Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
heheheehe, the guy with multiple personality disorder is still here

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(Besides, the old thread has reached post #2000, so this thread is now officially open anyway)

Damn, I wanted to not post here before time to post here arrived, but now the posting time has arrived, I am finding that my not posting here is not a real problem at all, but one that I made up in my cheese head. Oh, wait, I seem to have confuzzed meself there somewhere.

Oh well, nice to see there's a big lump of cheese floating around in the corner of the room.

Edgar Allan Poe

Born Jan 19, 1809, Boston, Mass, United States
Died Oct 7, 1849, Baltimore, Maryland

British-American short-story writer, novelist, poet, and literary critic, now regarded as one of the great figures of American literature.

Poe was the son of the English actress Elizabeth Arnold Poe, and David Poe Jr, an actor from Baltimore, who was descended from Dr Leonard Poe, the official physician for King James I and later for King Charles I of England. Poe received his classical education during his long stay in England from 1815 to 1820, before returning to Richmond, Virginia.

After brief periods at University and military college he earned a living as a writer and magazine editor, first in the South and later in New York. He suffered throughout his life from poverty and ill health, the latter exacerbated by the death of his young wife. In a brief literary career he produced a succession of classic horror tales, such as 'The Fall of the House of Usher' (1839). He set the standard for the modern detective story in 'The Murders in the Rue Morgue' (1841); and wrote poetry which, through Baudelaire, profoundly influenced the French Symbolists. In his essay 'The Poetic Principle' (1848-9) he indicates his conception of poetic unity to be one of mood or emotion, and especially emphasizes the beauty of melancholy. His novel The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym (1838) describes a sea voyage towards the Antarctic; in his mystical-scientific dissertation Eureka (1849) he attempts to establish an all-embracing theory of cosmogony.

MAJOR WORKS

Poems. Tamerlane and Other Poems (1827); Al Aaraaf, Tamerlane, and Minor Poems (1829); Poems by Edgar Allan Poe (1831); The Raven and Other Poems (1845); "Ulalume" (1847); "Annabel Lee" (1849); "The Bells" (1849).

You said – ”And Daniel2 ... please don't try to justify plagiarism. Bad form.”

Not only do you undermine the cause of theology by running away from the reality of my ‘no-God’ arguments, you now attack one of the most important attributes of the artform you profess to venerate.

Surely there is no need for me to justify plagiarism at a site dedicated to the artform that relies upon it.

By registering your love of the art of film-scoring (including much of Goldsmith’s output – ON THE WATERFRONT + BERNSTEIN = LA CONFIDENTIAL) you are yourself justifying plagiarism.

The intelligent and appropriate re-use of existing musical ideas is fundamental to the success of film music, and this is one of the reasons why I hold composers such as Horner and Zimmer in such high esteem. In my opinion, Goldsmith’s relatively slight and usually inappropriate tendency toward plagiarism is to the detriment of his film scores.

Anyway Wedge, as I have often said, I’ve never had an original thought in my life.

All of the information I have posted at my “BRITONS WITH BALLS” series can be found (and corroborated) within a thousand different reference books. There is no information within the Encyclopædia Britannica Lewis Carroll entry that cannot be found in a hundred different places on the internet or at the local library. There is no fresh insight into Carroll’s life to be found in the Encyclopædia Britannica – all of it is accepted fact, and can be verified a thousand times over. It is much the same with the evidence I have provided to illustrate how the bible has been fabricated and doctored to conform to Roman, and then ‘western’ sensibilities. And it is the same with the proof I have provided to illustrate the validity of the theory of evolution. My beliefs are bound by a multiplicity of cast iron evidences.

The same cannot be said about the wildly speculative and totally unsubstantiated nonsense that you naively cling to. I look forward to the day when you find something stronger than sticking plaster to hold your ideas of a divine being and an afterlife together.

And it’s funny, Wedge. You never seem to criticize Chris Kinsinger for ‘plagiarizing’ the bible.

You said – ” I just have the good sense to know when I'm wasting my time.”

Rather, you don’t have the faith, courage, strength and conviction of a David Livingstone or a Chris Kinsinger to continue defending you position, come what may.

You said – ”Not incapable, Danny Boy. I just have the good sense to know when I'm wasting my time. See, I don't know how it happened, but I've deluded myself into the crazy, speculative, unfounded, inadmissible and generally baseless opinion that speaking to you is rather like flushing a clogged toilet: the only response I'm likely to get is a massive backwash of ... well, you get the picture.”

And that’s just it Wedge. Owing to your sheltered and safe existence, you are unable to accept the harsh realities of life, including blocked toilets, turds, the theory of evolution and the non-existence of God. Your Munchkin-land philosophy appears to dictate that anything that cannot presently be explained by science is probably the work of God (or Lucifer). That’s like saying the ability for a human being to fly in an aircraft is a God-given miracle, because once man believed it to be impossible….and when that aircraft plummets to Earth, I suppose that’s Lucifer’s doing.

If there’s one thing I’ve learnt through my experiences during WWII, my time in 1950’s gangland Grimsby, and a lifetime of collecting garbage, life ain’t a bed of roses.

You said – ”God could easily have made the entire incident much cleaner by simply jamming the gun. But then nobody would've SEEN THE HAND OF GOD simply because a gun jammed.”

So, after centuries of dextrously avoiding scientific detection, God has suddenly become an exhibitionist?

You said – ” The Christian church is growing like no time since Jesus ministered in Israel 2000 years ago!”

Sorry to burst your bubble, but, although a lunatic hard-core Christian movement that engages in bible-punching hysterics may be increasing, the vast majority of society is moving away from all forms of traditional religion.

You said – ” If you have a television, Daniel, you may want to check out Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar (he's going to be ministering in London this month!), and a few others.”

Yes, I’ve seen these heavily embalmed lizard-like Billy Graham/Elmer Gantry/Liberace clones with their mellifluously artificial voices, tombstone grins and dollar-signs for pupils – they provide an immense amount of amusement, and amazement at their hypocrisy.

Tune-in to any of the Bible preaching stations clogging the air waves and you're bound to encounter, as Bono of U-2 so succinctly puts it, "A preacher on the Old Time Gospel Hour stealing money from the sick and the old", but invariably you will hear these high-tech thieves "proving" Jesus is the Son of God, and thus the one to tithe for, by reading "prophecies" from the Old Testament allegedly foretelling of Jesus. Many sincere kind people are duped by this type of fortune telling. The truth concerning the invalidated prophecies, if given a large enough popular audience, will cripple the religious fraudsters and their money machine and abruptly halt the continuation of the Christian myth.

You said – ” Even here in my area, the churches that are teaching the FULL GOSPEL (I'm not speaking of the main-line denominations here, because many of them ARE drying up!) are growing like never before. It's happening throughout the world, in fulfillment of prophecy.”

Well, so many of the prophesies of the bible have been either proven false or subsequently engineered to fit historical event that I’m sure somewhere in the bible you would be able to interpret the words of a ‘prophet’ as foretelling the coming of the internet.

As science pushes back the boundaries of knowledge, belief in a divine being becomes less and less sustainable.

”If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.” – Albert Einstein.

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Originally posted by DANIEL2:
Anyway Wedge, as I have often said, I’ve never had an original thought in my life.

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I don't know ... the idea that this pittering drivel is going to fool anybody seems pretty original ...

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All of the information I have posted at my “BRITONS WITH BALLS” series can be found (and corroborated) within a thousand different reference books.

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Dictionary.com defines plagiarizing as "To appropriate for use as one's own passages or ideas from (another)." I don't care WHAT information you're using, you are copying ENTIRE PASSAGES of text and posting them with yourself as the only author. That's why there's a difference between "paraphrase" and "plagiarize."

? FOR PETER K: What do the messageboard rules say about plagiarism? Daniel2 has a history of trouble with content: he got banned from the FSM board for altering the content of a private e-mail, then making it public.

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Rather, you don’t have the faith, courage, strength and conviction of a David Livingstone or a Chris Kinsinger to continue defending you position, come what may.

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Such as finding myself arguing with a PLAGIARIST? I don't care to SOIL MYSELF by engaging in serious conversation with intellectual PIRATES! As if we NEEDED another excuse not to take you seriously.

My need to defend my position would necessarily be presupposed by a threat. I feel the same threat-level from you that I do a warm breeze. (My apologies to any warm breezes which may be reading this. Hang in there fellas.)

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You live in a fantasy world of fictional deities and paranormal baloney, Wedge – your idea of reality corresponds with that of Walter Mitty – pure wish-fulfilment.

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Key word: FULFILMENT

THAT'S US!
We're growing by leaps and bounds every day, Daniel2. We are the end-time, signs-and-wonders Church of Jesus Christ. We worship our God with outstretched hands, we shout for joy to the King of Kings, and there is healing in our midst!
I don't know exactly what you mean by "bible punching hysterics". I don't ever punch my bible. I don't thump it either.

"Yes, I’ve seen these heavily embalmed lizard-like Billy Graham/Elmer Gantry/Liberace clones with their mellifluously artificial voices, tombstone grins and dollar-signs for pupils – they provide an immense amount of amusement, and amazement at their hypocrisy."

There will always be false prophets and phoney evangelists, but the teachers I mentioned are not among them. The false teachers only survive for a season before the truth brings them down.

Regarding your crack about God being an exhibitionist: ABSOLUTELY He is an exhibitionist! He's a Red Sea parting, burning bush speaking, corpse raising, water walking SHOW-OFF! He'll do whatever it takes to get our attention, because of His great love. There is a heaven to gain and a hell to shun, and God will do everything that He can to gather as many of His children into His arms as possible.

--Brian (The Crazy Boy: Kyp, Crono and Zidane)
Writer & Film/Video Editor

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