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    Topic:   A Report: Recent Discoveries

     Lou Goldberg
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    On the VHS front, I visited the Hollywood's Attic web site. In their TV section they have tapes available from Checkmate episodes scored by John Williams and Riverboat episodes scored by Elmer Bernstein.

    The amazing Riverboat theme was conducted by Buddy Morrow for his Double Impact album back in the late 50s (it's been re-ished by BMG Spain I believe). The theme shines even in his treatment and I can only speculate, until I order, on how good the original must be.

    The good news is that both Of Love Possessed (Elmer Bernstein) and Return to Paradise (Dimitri Tiomkin) can be found on VHS.

    The somewhat bad news is that two films with Malcolm Arnold scores that were on video are out of print: Africa, Texas Style and Island in the Sun. Still they were out there at one time so maybe they'll turn up.

    One out of print VHS tape I did turn up was an episode of Combat! Both the theme and the episode score by Leonard Rosenman were great. I don't know if the episode was specifically scored or used stock, but if all the episodes have original scores, there is a treasure mine of music to be found in this series.

    I also learned about a VHS of a British print of Strangers on a Train that was cut differently from the US version. But I don't know if the scoring is different as it is in the 1945 pre-release version of The Big Sleep, which has different music in some cues than the 1946 version.

    The DVD of I Dreamed of Africa has an isolated score.

    MGM/Chapter III re-issues--It's great to finally have The VIPs on CD (I know it was bootlegged before but still). Sony didn't issue this in the early 90s when they were issuing other MGM scores like El Cid and Far From the Madding Crowd. It sounds just a tad muddy and is a kind of 3 stars out of 4 for Rozsa, but it's completely worth buying for one cue alone, the English pastiche, "Dutchess of Brighton."

    Once again El Cid returns (!) as well and Where Eagles Dare too.

    Hotel Paradiso is an Italian flavored score with a solo woodwind presiding over trots and waltzes by Laurence Rosenthal. It doesn't sound as much like Rosenthal as it does Offenbach and Nino Rota. The entire time I was listening to it I also kept thinking of Shostakovich's score to The New Babylon. The Comedians on the same CD is more serious in tone. Once you get past the still-good Caribe source music there are some low-key cues that are nonetheless wonderful.

    I wish I could feel as positive about The Biggest Bundle of Them All (Riz Ortolani) and Zigzag (Oliver Nelson). When Bundle doesn't sound like bad Italian restaurant musak it actually has "comedy" cues that have a muted trumpet going wah-wah-wah. The jazz score to Zigzag is much better by comparison but still nothing exceptional IMHO.

    I enjoyed The 10th Kingdom by Anne Dudley. Danger: Diabolik is a great 60s score by Ennio Morricone. The problem with D-D is that the original tapes were lost (which explains why there's been no release until now). When this new CD came out, I thought maybe they'd finally found the tapes or they'd booted the missing material from a private source, but alas, the CD comes straight off the film's soundtrack, sound effects, dialogue, and all. Since the film is on Laser and VHS maybe DVD too, the CD is overpriced at its' $30 asking price. I should have asked questions before jumping on it.

    Tan Dun's 2000-A Symphony for the Millenium came as a shock. Having heard Crouching Tiger and Nanjing 1937, I wasn't expecting this full orchestra and choir piece of John Tesh-like world music. What I heard was good but I'm still getting used to it.

    A CAM CD with 3 scores by Mario Nascembene turned out to be a welcome surprise. La Raggazza Con La Valigia (The Girl With The Suitcase) was a great score for harpsichord and Guitar (Lute?). Estate Violenta (Violent Summer) was more conventional but included a great 4 minute slow jazz source cue. La Mort Di Un Amico (Death of a Friend) turned out to be a great suite of very American sounding crime jazz.

    Another CAM Nacsembene score, Gli Atti Degli Apostoli, is really good. The hitch is that of its' 40 minutes, 30 minutes have cuts with lengthy Italian dialogue underscored by the music. There are a few cues played without the dialogue but woefully few.

    A CAM CD of two scores by Nino Rota: Accade Al Penitenziario and Un Eroe dei Nostri Tempi, both from 1955, had obvious Rota touches but were ultimately third rate and disappointing.

    I saw The Pledge and 13 Days. The Pledge co-written by Hans Zimmer has an OK score. But one world music cue with a soloist singing something African or Polynesian set over shots of Nicholson fishing in a mountain lake seemed glaringly out of place. Trevor Jones score to 13 Days was wonderful from the main title on. But once again, at the film's end, something glaringly out of place--to score the final triumph of the crisis, the strings swell, the trumpets blare, and while the music is well-written in and of itself, it's just too much. The film is somewhat detached and the ending is flat and the film doesn't succeed in conjuring up the emotion it had hoped for and so the scoring is being called on the help boost the feeling but all it does is call attention to the attempt.

    Lastly, I have to come around on Zimmer if but for one score alone--The Thin Red Line. Sure, Zimmer is using a trick by mimicking a sound that is already associated with the mystic and religious but he does it brilliantly. TRL is like an Adagio for Strings that lasts an hour or Ives' Third Symphony, a slow low-key work that speaks with great depth. It may not be an American masterpiece, but it's the best thing I've heard Zimmer do so far.

    Next time: 2 anime scores (I didn't mention them here because I can't remember how the composer's names are spelled), the 2CD Moross set on Silva and more film music by Aaron Copland.

    [Message edited by Lou Goldberg on 02-18-2001]

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    posted 02-16-2001 02:50 AM PT (US)     

     Luscious Lazlo
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    Lou, you magnificent bastard: It's a relief bordering on orgasm to know that you properly appreciate Zimmer's THE THIN RED LINE. Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then, and THE THIN RED LINE is one commendable acorn.

    Along with most of Zimmer, I also hate most of Charles Ives. No---wait a minute. Come to think of it, I hate everything ever written by Charles Ives. His stuff is coarse and ham-fisted. But I'll give his Third Symphony a shot just to humor you.

    Regarding Aaron Copland's Third Symphony: Someone finally make a decent recording of it. Namely, Leonard Slatkin & The St. Louis Orchestra.

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    posted 02-16-2001 06:53 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Yes I am a marvelous blind pig bastard aren't I? Glad I could give you orgasms of relief you sick mother.

    The Ives 3rd is a bit different from the rest of CI's work. I'll try to run down the Slatkin 3rd, sounds interesting.

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    posted 02-16-2001 08:25 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Thanks for all the information, Lou. I need to check out some of these.
    Also would like to add that the Cross of Iron by Ernest Gold was just
    released. (I can’t find this CD on this website..darn.) Beautiful music in this
    odd Peckinpah movie.

    Glad to hear that someone else was a little jarred by Zimmer’s Caribbean music
    underscoring Nicholson’s fishing trip in The Pledge. It was so obviously out of
    place that I decided that maybe the music was used for some type of irony.
    Nicholson was suppose to be in the tropics (hence the score) on a retirement fishing
    trip but allowed his obsession to keep him place bound. The montage on the swings
    with a child’s singing was effective. The score captured the desolation of the area
    and the growing isolation and disintegration of the main characters. I thought is
    was a better score than Hannibal. Course the movie, Hannibal, almost put me to
    sleep so maybe I missed something.

    NP The Edge

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    posted 02-16-2001 10:22 PM PT (US)     

     SPQR
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    HOGWASH! POPPYCOCK!

    Minor pedal points ascending and descending the scale in a monotonous haze is, in my opinion, the least thoughtful of methodologies to achieve ennui. Nevertheless, of all his albums, it's also the most 'listenable'.

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    posted 02-16-2001 11:46 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Thanks Joan. I haven't picked up the Gold CD yet so didn't mention it.

    SPQR: I know I seem like a traitor to praise Zimmer after all I've said before. I did say his approach was cliched. But I think it works. At least for now. Whether I'm still playing TRL in years to come is something we'll have to see about.

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    posted 02-17-2001 01:06 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    Joan--I've been thinking about that cue in The Pledge and similar juxtapositions in Zimmer's score to Mission: Impossible 2 where he scores certain events with glaringly out of place appoaches.

    Normally producers tend to be pretty stern about music following a certain style or temp track. But someone has been green lighting Zimmer cues that play with conventional classical Hollywood associations of what music should accompany what action. Just why Zimmer is going for these kind of visual/aural dissonances and what effect it will eventually have I can't say. Being an old stick in the mud I can't say I go for his approach over the Hollywood cliche. I still want to hear chase music under a chase scene, not Carmina Burana. I want fight scenes to be scored like fights, not scored with love themes.

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    posted 02-18-2001 03:53 AM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Lou, I’m like you. I usually prefer action music set to action, romantic themes
    underscoring romance, etc. The tropical theme behind Nicholson’s fishing
    expedition was more jarring than ironic, and it didn’t work for me. However,
    I have witnessed scenes where the music does play against the visuals, and
    the results were extremely effective. I can think of two examples. In Platoon
    when Dafoe was left behind, and we could see him running for his life
    from above in the helicopter, the slow melancholy Adagio for Strings
    seemed to heighten his tragedy. Also, I recently watched Fearless, and when
    Jeff Bridges at the end fully recalls the horrors of the plane crash, Jarre scores
    this episode in a slow, melodic, disconsolate theme that again intensifies the
    tragedy more than a bombastic action motif.

    I’m curious. Is there a name or title for this type of scoring?

    NP Ride With the Devil

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    posted 02-18-2001 09:59 PM PT (US)     

     H Rocco
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    I always think of that type of scoring as "counterpoint." Masaru Sato was especially good at that (check out Kurosawa's YOJIMBO), and while I don't know if Ennio Morricone was directly influenced by Sato -- their fundamental styles are quite different -- he DID frequently approach the Leone westerns in much the same way (the first one of which, A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS, was of course an uncredited remake of YOJIMBO).

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    posted 02-18-2001 10:17 PM PT (US)     

     Kross
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    OUT OF PLACE! ACK! The score t the Pledge FIT like a glove that is the perfect size after being made just for that hand! The "weird" notes worked very well even furing the fishing scenes. Maybe they mean something...

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    posted 02-18-2001 10:58 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Kross:
    Maybe they mean something...

    ...or they could just be weird notes. This is Hans we are talking about, remember. The guy who can't read or write music. Or drive a car.

    Jeron

    NP - Tron, Wendy Carlos *****/*****

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    posted 02-18-2001 11:54 PM PT (US)     

     joan hue
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    Kross, in other postings, I have given a big thumbs up to both the movie and the score. The movie isn't for everyone, but to me it is marvelous. I also praised the score except for the fishing trip. To me, if it was for irony, I don't really think it worked. The rest of the score fit well, especially during the montage scene with the girl on the swing. Too bad the subtle unraveling of Nicholson won't attract more of an audience.

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    posted 02-19-2001 12:26 PM PT (US)     

     John C Winfrey
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    For Black Hawk Down Zimmer will incorporate rock/disco music for several scenes and lots of Lion King type action cues, and some with choral similar to Crimson Tide and Gladiator. It will be great. John.

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