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Topic: Still worried about Howard Shore scoring LORD OF THE RINGS?
H Rocco
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Here is a very interesting article assessing the composer's qualifications:posted 03-31-2001 03:48 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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I posted that link a couple of weeks ago, and it say about the same I've been thinking all the time: That I'm certain Shore will compose a score that works perfectly in the film, but also that I hope (i.e. don't know) that the score will not be too subdued for a standalone listening experience.NP: Hellraiser (Christopher Young)
posted 03-31-2001 04:25 PM PT (US) JJH
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Available today:Yours truly has just made a very nice Shore compilation CDR for the novices out there (primarily hornerfan -- hehe, he's an ass, too).
I didn't include everything I wanted, but that's okay. this is a nice sampling.
and I have a lifetime to gather what else I need.free for the taking, if you dare (or until I run out of CDRs).
19 tracks, each from a different score.
78 minutes. Plain Jane packaging -- what else you expect for free?posted 03-31-2001 05:37 PM PT (US) Wedge
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I just know I'm missing out. The only Shore score I own is "Dogma," which did impress me very much. I'd happily buy a Shore compilation just on principle!
posted 03-31-2001 07:59 PM PT (US) ActionGuy
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I'd be VERY interested JJH! I only own Shore's The Game, and would be interested to hear what else he's done. I saw the Se7en boot in London over christamas a used cd store but figured $30 was wayyy to much.Rich D.
NP - Asherons Call - I composed a score for the game, i got sick of hearing nothing while playing.posted 03-31-2001 08:21 PM PT (US) H Rocco
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What's on it, Mr. H? I wouldn't want to deprive you of copies should it turn out that I already have most or all of it. Otherwise, I'm extremely interested.
posted 03-31-2001 08:30 PM PT (US) JJH
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Okay here's a track listing:notice: "suites" are typically just two cues edited together. so, not really suites in the traditional sense.
1. Big suite 6:41
2. The Truth About Cats and Dogs 2:02
3. Before and After, end credits 4:20
4. The Cell, suite 5:00
5. Cop Land, "All Dressed Up in Blue" 4:20
6. Crash, title theme 3:36
7. Dead Ringers suite 4:57
8. Ed Wood, "Elysium" 2:16
9. eXistenZ, "eXistenZ by Antenna" 3:07
10. The Fly, main title 1:54
11. The Game suite 4:56
12. Looking for Richard 4:09
13. M Butterfly, title theme 2:02
14. Naked Lunch suite 4:34
15. Nobody's Fool, "Fool's Triple" 1:08
16. Se7en suite 7:35
17. Silence of the Lambs, Finale 4:53
18. Videodrome, "Long Live the New Flesh" 3:26
19. The Yards, suite* 7:29Total Time: 78:39
*contains excerpt from "Saturn" by Gustav Holst
this compilation gives you an overall feel for Shore: jazzy, dissonant, epic, electronic, pastoral, cute, emotional, disturbed, moody.
there you have it. lemme know.
NP -- Twilight Zone: The Movie; Goldsmith -- oh man, it's on that cheesy pop song! change tracks! ahhhh....posted 03-31-2001 10:31 PM PT (US) JJH
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Mr. Action Guy:
It's a very tough call to make on Seven. It's a very creepy crawly, utterly dark and claustrophobic score, with almost no way out. It's not real "tuneful" either.my best advice is to rent the film first and see.
NP - see aboveposted 03-31-2001 10:35 PM PT (US) Wedge
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You mean Shore actually QUOTED Holst and gave him due CREDIT?!? No way!DANG! Why didn't SHORE do "Gladiator?"
posted 03-31-2001 11:43 PM PT (US) Probable
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JJ - still got any?
posted 03-31-2001 11:49 PM PT (US) Wedge
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You know, it occurs to me that if LOTR is a big smash success, Shore could very well become the in-demand composer for big-budget epics like "Gladiator." Honestly, when was the last really great epic score for an epic film? (I'm not among those who label "Titanic" and "Gladiator" great epic scores, just so we're clear.)
posted 04-01-2001 12:40 AM PT (US) Drixorial
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I could be down for that JJI've been unexposed to Howard Shore for the most part...only exception being his really great score for The Cell...yes I am rather quite wet behind the ears
NP: The Prince of Egypt - Hans Zimmer
posted 04-01-2001 05:00 AM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
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I would say Williams has had a shot at a few epics. The whole Star Wars trilogy, Hook (music only), Superman. Goldsmith doesn't write alot of music so some of his longer movies do not have more that 35 mins of score.You would probably have to go back to Spartacus, Ben Hur and Cleopatra to find the old epic score.
I could throw Braveheart in there, which should have been Horner's oscar.
posted 04-01-2001 09:46 AM PT (US) JJH
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I'm pretty sure Wedge is being facetious, BUT in case I missd the mark, which is sadly all too possible:"Saturn" is apparently used in a couple of dream sequences in the film, rather than original music. Which is fine; just license the real thing rather than have Shore copy it.
The piece is conducted by Shore himself, in a rather nice reading if I do say so myself.
The Yards is a fine score if you ask me.anyway, if you want a copy, just send an email with the word "Shore" in subject line, so I can keep them grouped together.
For me, the last truly great, epic, sweeping score was as recent as John Barry's Dances With Wolves in 1990. It really captured the vast grandeur of the American west, with nice use of characters' themes.posted 04-01-2001 10:07 AM PT (US) Mark Olivarez
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D'oh!!!! I forgot about Dances With Wolves.
posted 04-01-2001 10:27 AM PT (US) cine-sin
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JJH and Rocco,You may be interested to know that Howard Shore performed the score to 'Crash' live, here in my home city, Melbourne.
It was part of the annual Cinesonic conference which focuses on sound and score within film. http://media-arts.rmit.edu.au/Phil_Brophy/CNSNC98/Cinesonic.html
If I had known about it at the time, I would have attended...especially considering its only a mile from where I live.
Even so, I was quite unfamiliar with Shore at that point and even know am awaiting for my first score to arrive (Seven). Athough, I did listen to 'Silence of the Lambs' some weeks ago.
Regards & regrets,
Rochelleposted 04-01-2001 10:44 AM PT (US) JJH
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I also believe Shore just conducted his score for Dead Ringers to film in London.either that or Naked Lunch, I forget.
posted 04-01-2001 11:02 AM PT (US) new york islanders
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You're right bout Dead Ringers JJ.. Naked Lunch was also recorded in London as well. I am a big Howard Shore fan eversince I saw Big, I knew this guy was something. Big is still my no.1 favorite score by him with Seven running a close second. I'm still missing a few like Dead Ringers and Before and After and Crash, but no doubt I will get Lord of the Rings. That's definetly a must.Hey JJ, did you still wanna trade or what? If anyone's interested, I've put together a terrific Dave Grusin:Suites and Themes collection that runs about 4 hours or so. and it's crammed to the tee. If anyone's interested I'll post the track titles and stuff. Howard rules!
posted 04-01-2001 12:45 PM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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For me, the last truly great, epic, sweeping score was even much more recent - Chicken Run!I'd be interested in that compilation, JJ, except that I have so much to listen to at the moment, I couldn't fit it in (and I have a few other trades to do, too, which I already promised some people weeks ago).
NP: The Lord of the Rings (Leonard Rosenman)
posted 04-01-2001 01:16 PM PT (US) Camillu
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JJ - I'd love one if there are any left.And btw - did that 'SHINE' cd ever arrive???
posted 04-01-2001 02:12 PM PT (US) odinatheforestcat
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I'd say the most recent "Epic" score was Return of the King. Oh yeah!
posted 06-10-2004 01:39 PM PT (US) Southall
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Lord of the what?
posted 06-10-2004 04:48 PM PT (US) Ron Pulliam
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Dance....Lord of the Dance.You've seen that, right, James?
posted 06-14-2004 01:54 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB