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Topic: Killers

Lancelot

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What is so curious and even dangerously alluring about the mind of a killer? What makes a killer an interesting heroic/anti-heroic figure for a story? Is the purpose of the killer-story to be redemptive or self-fulfilling?Ten non-specific, non-definitive movies about Killers [and their scores]:
1. Interview With the Vampire - A fantastical aspect of the killer. When neophyte vampire Louis chooses eternal life over death, he is forced to kill by nature. Rather than embrace his thirst for human blood, he struggles against others who share his nature. Elliot Goldenthal weaves a dark neo-classical score under director Neil Jordan's vision of the novel by Anne Rice.
2. The Specialist - Another assassin/bomb-maker who struggles against his nature, pitted against a former comrade. Sort of plays like a dark James Bond. Appropriately, then, John Barry applies a seedy, jazzy score under the Latin American backdrop.
3. Hannibal - Chosen because Hannibal is truly Dr. Lecter's story, whereas Silence of the Lambs was the story of fledgling agent Clarice Starling. The ads for this movie taut the evil legacy of Dr. Lecter, when in truth his most notable killings are those who practice an virtually-criminal hypocrisy. Lecter's greatest foes are not killers, but they are likewise, evil. Hans Zimmer with the aid of Klaus Badelt also applies a dark-classical score, to accentuate the delicate-if-anthropophagic nature of Anthony Hopkins' most memorable role.
4. Blade Runner - Ridley Scott again. Depending on which version of the film you view, the future of Rick Dekard is in question. Is he a hunter of abomination of nature, or is he an abomination of nature set to kill others of his own kind? A very influential picture for the genre, based on Phillip K. Dick's "cyberpunk" novella. Vangelis' score mixes noir-ish jazz with grand otherworldly synthezizers.
5. Unforgiven - Can an individual ever "retire" from being a killer? When driven by injustice, even the brutal nature of Eastwood's Munny is reawakened. A sucess for director Eastwood and supporting actor Hackman at the Oscars. Eastwood's films are notable for their lack of strong thematic music, playing more to softer, subtle emotion. Unforgiven is not the exception, featuring Eastwood's traditional piano-theme for (interstingly) a character who is dead before the movie begins....collaborator Lennie Niehaus provides the remainder of the score.
6. Richard III - a mid-1990's envisioning of Shakespeare's dark play featuers Ian McKellan as Richard of Gloucester, whose reign as a murderous king echoes the rise of a fascist regime during the 1930's. Trevor Jones' dark score on is second chair to monologues, dialogues and faux-period music.
7. Grosse Point Blank - Dark humor saturates this fairly original story of an assassin who attempts to find redemption at his high school reunion. Funniest scenes feature John Cusack bearing his despair to terrified psychologist Alan Arkin (At least five years before the advent of The Sopranos!) The musical substance of this film is primarily 80's flashback songs, oldies but goodies.
8. The Jackal - High-tech remake of a relatively low-tech story, the plot to assassinate Charles DeGaulle, except in this version, the otherwise-nameless Jackal seeks an American government target with a much bigger gun....Bruce Willis takes on a evil role for a change. A good change of pace. (Author's note: While I enjoyed Zinneman's original film, this version holds a particular distinction, in that I spend a few days on the set as an extra. I actually got in the film for a whole second--.75 seconds in pan-and-scan...) Carter Burwell's score remains unofficially released, but is classic dark Burwell.
9. The Professional - Luc Besson's dark-and-hopeful story about an assassin who finds redemption in a girl orphaned by a corrupt narcotics officer and his hit-squad. The sadly inevitable ending proves once again that one never retires from being an assassin.... Eric Serra's score is quite servicable, if unremarkable, unmemorable.
10. La Femme Nikita/Point of No Return - Two different versions of the same picture. This film was also remade in China as [/i]Black Cat[/i]. Particularly interesting is the fact that this assassin is a female. A dark version of Shaw's Pygmalion, wherein mysterious "Bob" sculpts "Nikita", a deadly street urchin groomed into a beautiful woman trained to be the perfect unsuspected assassin. Eric Serra's score for Luc Besson's original is once again, servicable, though Hans Zimmer's score for John Badham's American version is slightly more memorable, stretching from an angry beginning into a hopeful and beautiful theme, though one that serves the potential of the Nikita/Nina character, and not the unresolved nature of the story--(can a killer escape his/her nature?) The score in Point of No Return shares screen time with insertions of songs by Nina Simone, the presence of which is explained better in the film...)
posted 08-13-2001 07:18 PM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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THE KILLERS Don Seigel version with LEE MARVIN and CLU GALAGERthese 2 dudes are the nastiest killers ever except maybe James Cagney or Richard Widmak
posted 08-13-2001 07:36 PM PT (US) 
John Zimmer

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Umm Lancelot... what is with you and top ten lists? Not that they're bad or any thing but I'm just curious.Np: Jurassic Park III (Don Davis)
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posted 08-14-2001 08:43 AM PT (US) 
Stephen Lister

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I think one of the most interesting screen killers is the hitman in THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR, played with tremendous charisma by Max Von Sydow. In fact, Sydow's paternal warmth invests the character with a sympathetic quality that is downright unnerving. In his first scene, he leads a team of assassins to wipe out the CIA research group that Robert Redford works for (Redford, luckily, has popped out to lunch when the attack occurs). Although Sydow doesn't do any killing himself, he is obviously in charge. When a woman finds herself trapped in an office, facing a hitman with a silenced submachine gun, she unexpectedly shows no fear, resigned to her fate. Sydow, knowing the bullets will shatter the window behind her (and attract attention) politely commands her: "Step away from the window, please." The woman senses Sydow is the guy in charge, and says to him, "I won't scream." Sydow answers, "I know," in a tone of voice that makes it clear he can empathise with his victims. Sydow plays the character almost like an English butler, loyal, efficient, cultivated - a man you wish you had on your side. Which is exactly what Redford is wishing, because Sydow stalks him for the rest of the movie - and then, (spoilers ahead!) in a twist that seemed novel at the time, and maybe still is, the calm, unruffable killer suddenly changes sides and saves Redford's life. Not because he cares about Redford (though you feel he does) but because the "other side" have bought him and want Redford kept alive. When Redford asks him how he can kill people for a living, Sydow has the spookiest speech about how it's almost a therapeutic lifestyle, quite relaxing. If this was a modern film, Sydow would end up being a total psycho, and Redford would have a climactic fight-to-the-death with him. For me, Sydow's character remains one of the most intriguing of cinematic killers.
posted 08-14-2001 10:05 AM PT (US) 
Lancelot

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What's with me and top 10 lists?1. They're not top 10 lists. Just lists of 10.
2. It's a nice round number.3. Most folks who do "lists of ten" never really stick to 10. They'll often try to squeeze in an 11th or 12th....
4. It's an attempt to generate thoughtful analysis and conversation based on facts...outside of the droll factoids and opinions that often appear on the board.
5. Horner probably would not do a "sucky" job on Jurassic Park 4...if there should be yet another sequel. (See #4)
6. It examines common themes in film as related through mythology, psychology, and general culture.
7. Through examining common themes in film, it also examines similar or vastly different approaches in film music.
8. It's an attempt to contribute, communicate, and participate with some originality on this board.
9. There is no #9.
10. A lonely impulse of delight.
posted 08-14-2001 11:42 AM PT (US) 
Ken S

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INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE was a movie that originally had a tremendous effect on me - those years I battled with my own soul pretty much. But now I'm many years older and maybe a little wiser; and when seeing IWTV again on tv, I almost laughed my head off - I couldn't believe that the movie which I took once so seriously, was now only embarrassingly hilarious.Elliot Goldenthal's score, however, stands the test of time.
posted 08-14-2001 11:55 AM PT (US) 
Lancelot

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11. My Lists of 10 are the literary equivalent of lead, anyway....
posted 08-14-2001 07:07 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
