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    Topic:   The greatest horror scores ever (input needed)

     Pete M
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    Hey all. As part of my writings for Horror View, I'm going to be doing a regular column about horror scores, as well as soundtrack reviews. To start things off, I was thinking about doing a list of the 50 best horror scores of all time. So, can I have some input from you good people? Obviously the absolute classics (like Bride of Frankenstein, Psycho, The Omen etc) will be in, but it's the others I'm not so sure about. And who should be the most featured composer (currently looking like Goldsmith)? Give me your suggestions for what should (& also should NOT) be on the list, please. If you can give your argument why, that'd be great too. For example, I can't decide whether to include Hellraiser or Hellbound or both? Do The Crow, The Edge, The Ghost & The Darkness, Lord of the Rings, King Kong et al count as horror?

    CURRENT WORKING LIST

    Any input would be very gratefully received.

    Oh, & I'm only going to be doing them in chronological order.

    NP the Ghost & the Darkness

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    posted 04-03-2002 04:23 AM PT (US)     

     John Zimmer
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    Well what of course comes to mind first off is The Omen. Jaws is also a very good horror score. I want to say Jurassic Park but is that a real horror score? I'm no real fan of the horror genere score or film but From Hell (Trevor Jones) is very new but still very good.

    Like I said I ain't no expert.

    Jz

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    posted 04-03-2002 04:39 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    If The Fury counts as a horor score, it should be #1 on the list. Also, don't forget Alien, Alien³, Mephisto Waltz and The Others (yes, the one by Amenabar, not the one coupled with Mepthisto Waltz )

    Don't forget some Christopher Young!

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    posted 04-03-2002 06:03 AM PT (US)     

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    "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir" certainly does not count as a horror score!


    My own personal choices would have to be:

    "Silence of the Lambs", by Shore. Not really a horror movie in the classical sense, but the score is certainly a creepy masterpiece.

    "NightBreed", by Elfman. A fantastic score by Elfman with equal parts fantasy and horror. Also very heavy on ethnic percussion and woodwinds, which is somewhat unusual for the genre.

    "Mary Reily", by Fenton. A bone-chilling (and quite sad) score with some great string-writing.

    "Halloween", by Carpenter. Need I say anything about this one?

    There's plenty of other great horror scores, but I cannot remember them all.

    SFT

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    posted 04-03-2002 06:18 AM PT (US)     

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    As an avid fan of horror films and the music within those films, I'd have a hard time trimming the list to 50. The biggest problem is that there are MANY great horror film scores for films that no one has ever even heard of, not to mention composers no one has ever heard of. To include those among what many people feel are "the classics" (their opinions, not mine) would probably end up in an uproar.

    If I could suggest an idea... I think it would be better to just focus on a few scores per month by mixing it up with new, old, and obscure titles. These "50 greatest" lists are way too subjective and are usually a no win situation for whoever compiles them. You'll get complaints as to what wasn't included as well as the ranking of what was included.

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    posted 04-03-2002 06:45 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    Okay, I'll make this a bit easier. My current working list is
    HERE

    What should be there but isn't, & what shouldn't be there that is? (it made sense in my head)

    And yes, I know that's more than 50.

    And I'm really concerned that it's far too heavily weighed in favor of the last three decades.

    And I'm going to be focusing on individual scores, both well-known & obscure titles in some depth. This list is totally a subjective thing, & is just for starters.

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    posted 04-03-2002 06:47 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Two (also very recent) scores come to my mind: Is In Dreams by Goldenthal a horror score, or does it just sound like one? And Glass' Dracula score (for string quartet) is very good as well.

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    posted 04-03-2002 07:56 AM PT (US)     

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    Okay, I know you have it on there, but I think the best horror score I've ever heard is Christopher Young's Hellbound: Hellraiser II, a score that I continually listened to while reading The Lord of the Rings Trilogy for the second time two years ago.

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:06 AM PT (US)     

     Al
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    "Copycat" by Christopher Young.

    The "Panic" cue is a horror trailer classic.

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:09 AM PT (US)     

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    Goldenthal's Interview with the Vampire is also good...

    Oh, and please don't be ignorant. Herrmann's PSYCHO is #1! No contest.

    SFT

    PS: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre really shouldn't be on the list at all. It's not really a score.

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:10 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    The list is chronological, not in order of greatness!!!

    And if TCM isn't a score, what is it? I'm not going to make any claims for it's musical stature, but in the film it's incredibly effective. Anyway, I need to rewatch the film, which I probably will do tonight, & pay attention as to whether it's worth mentioning. It is pretty unlike any other scores, & very effective, which is why I put it up as a possible.

    NP Michael J Lewis Film Music

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:19 AM PT (US)     

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    Im with MJ on this one, it's very hard. I'll have to look at my stuff tonight and try to come up with something.....I know it's a little OT, but what better place to post this:

    Anchor Bay is doing a 2 DVD set of RE ANIMATOR, with new features, iso score in 5.1, and TWO interviews with Richard Band. Few scores have divided people over its worth so much over the years...I like it, am looking forward to this.

    Best,
    Sean

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:40 AM PT (US)     

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    The Changeling!!!!
    The Haunted Palace, Ronald Stein
    Alien, Goldsmith

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:43 AM PT (US)     

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    HORROR OF DRACULA by James Bernard.And Herrmann's Ghost and Mrs. Muir IS NOT a horror score.

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:49 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    Is that AB doing the ReAnimator disc? I thought it was the second of Elite's Millenium Editions after NOTLD. Whatever, I've definitely going to be picking a copy up. I've got the NOTLD:ME, btw, & will be watching it tonight. Can't wait.

    Haunted Palace!! Good one (already got the other two).

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    posted 04-03-2002 08:55 AM PT (US)     

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    Some Older Scores to Consider:

    I would add the Changeling, a creepy score and film this is a recent Percepto release. Chillingly effective.

    I would also add The Uninvited by Victor Young. This is simply one of the most effective ghost stories ever filmed. It is almost entirely free of special effects and that only makes it more eerie. It also includes the enchanting "Stella by Starlight".

    Some others to consider are:

    House of Frankenstein – There is excellent Marco Polo rerecording of this score.

    Universal Classic Scores – This Marco Polo release includes several score choices from the classic period of Universal Monster films.

    Themes From Classic Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films – Not as good a quality a recording as the Marco Polo albums but includes Tarantula and the Deadly Mantis.

    Creature From the Black Lagoon – A release by Monstrous Music for this classic film with music by Hans J. Salter.

    Haunted Palace/Premature Burial – Precepto released this recently

    Scars of Dracula, The Devil Rides Out, Taste the Blood of Dracula all by James Barnard an overlooked composer who really put a stamp on horror music.

    Dracula – New score recorded composed and conducted by Phillip Glass. Quite nice.

    Hammer Film Collections, Volumes 1 & 2 – quite nice samplers for many different Hammer films. This includes some nice pieces available no place else.

    Ghost Story – Phillip Sarde. A compelling score and tale.

    The Fly, The Fly II and The Cell by Howard Shore. As long as you are including se7en you may as well consider The Cell. The Fly movies are an obvious choice.


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    posted 04-03-2002 09:05 AM PT (US)     

     Dylan
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    From Beyond- Richard Band
    The House on Sorority Row- Richard Band
    Puppetmaster- Richard Band
    The Alchemist- Richard Band
    Magic- Jerry Goldsmith

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    posted 04-03-2002 10:16 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by OHMSS76:
    I know it's a little OT, but what better place to post this:

    Anchor Bay is doing a 2 DVD set of RE ANIMATOR, with new features, iso score in 5.1, and TWO interviews with Richard Band. Few scores have divided people over its worth so much over the years...I like it, am looking forward to this.

    Best,
    Sean


    Where did you see that info? Man, that would be awesome if it's true! The previous DVD release was, in my opinion, a much worse transfer than the LaserDisc. And the discussion over the Herrmannesque feel of his score has been debated over and over again. Let's face it folks - he did it as an homage to Herrmann (see the Silva release liner notes) and I'm sure due to the fact that the filmmakers wanted it that way. The way I see it, if you CAN do it, DO IT!

    And maybe someday we'll get a good version of the 1979 Dracula which seems to be black & white thru much of the film on everything but the videotape edition. I know I'm dreaming on this, but I'd love to see either an isolated score on a DVD or, better, a expanded/complete edition of the score, a release which has now gone out of print. Of all the John Williams stuff that HAS seen release (I'm in a minorty here but I know I can live without most of his Johnny Williams era scores), one would think we could see a full version of this score. I'm sure it's due to it being owned by MCA/Universal that this hasn't happened.

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    posted 04-03-2002 10:47 AM PT (US)     

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    I agree MJ, it's a gag, the movie is full of black humor, those who think it's a rip on Benny are.....well, pretty blind

    I saw this announced in this month's FANGORIA, the one with Blade II on the cover. It's a half page ad, the other half is the announcement of NOTLD MEdition. I'm shocked that no one else knows about this! Did I really scoop you all on this info! Hope that Fango wasn't pulling some April Fool's Joke, I'm sure not

    I don't remember the street date, but it's not for a few months anyway.

    Best,
    Sean

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    posted 04-03-2002 10:51 AM PT (US)     

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    GOLDENEYE

    I get scared sh*tless everytime I hear it.


    Seriously, though - i want to echo my sentiments for THE CHANGELING and suggest that Kilar's score to BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA be considered as well.

    Dan

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    posted 04-03-2002 10:51 AM PT (US)     

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    Anybody up for Rosemary's Baby? And while its technically a biopic score, Goldsmith's Freud has always struck me as one of the most unsettling scores ever written.

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    posted 04-03-2002 11:16 AM PT (US)     

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    What about Silence of the Lambs? I also like Copycat...the main theme (though eerily similar to Species) is fairly spine-tingling as well the creepy piano pieces.

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    posted 04-03-2002 11:25 AM PT (US)     

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    Pete, good working list! I don't think anyone has mentioned THE FALL OF THE HOUSE OF USHER or PIT AND THE PENDULUM, both absolutely magnificent scores by Les Baxter.

    This topic is right up my horrific alley: I'll give it a thought and post some more suggestions later.

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    posted 04-03-2002 01:32 PM PT (US)     

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    I'm surprised no-ones mentioned "The Thing" and "Wolf" by Ennio Morricone. What about "Tubular Bells" and the music from "The Exorcist" and "The Shining" by Wendy Carlos and others.

    Recently I've been listening to a lot of Hammer Horror music and I'm really getting into Harry Robinson's music for "Twins of Evil", "Lust for a Vampire" "The Vampire Lovers". Of course there's the great James Bernard who has written loads of great Hammer horror scores...Not mentioned above "Curse of frankenstein" "Kiss of the Vampire" "Plague of the Zombies" most of the Hammer Dracula films, "The Devil Rides out" etc etc. Some other films and composers for Hammer Horror were "The Curse of the Werewolf" (Benjamin Frankel) "The Mummy" (Franz Reisenstein) "Curse of the Mummy's tomb" (Carlo Martelli)
    Dont forget also Pino Donnagio's music for "The Howling" and Elmer Bernstein's short but atmospheric score for "An American Werewolf in London"
    Some lesser known Herrmann would be "Sisters" "Obsession" and "Endless Night"
    What about Harry Manfredini's chilling music to the "Friday the 13th" movies and some of John carpenter's scores e.g. "Halloween" "Christine"
    Ron Goodwin's atmospheric music to "The Day of the Triffids" and "Village of the Damned" "Children of the Damned" and "Frenzy"

    Cant think of any more at the moment!
    Gae

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    posted 04-03-2002 02:05 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dylan:
    From Beyond- Richard Band
    The House on Sorority Row- Richard Band
    Puppetmaster- Richard Band
    The Alchemist- Richard Band

    What he said! (I haven't heard Magic).

    Kirk

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    posted 04-03-2002 02:53 PM PT (US)     

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    Hi Michael,

    From the Elite Entertainment website:

    -----
    Re-Animator: The Milleniun Edition

    A Brand New 2 DVD Set Featuring New and Exciting Special Features.

    Disc One
    THX Approved
    New Digital Master
    16 x 9 Anamorphic WideScreen (Aspect Ratio 1.85:1)
    Animated Motion Menus
    24 Chapters with Motion Images
    DTS 5.1 Digital Surround
    Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround
    Isolated 5.1 Dolby Digital Music Score
    Original 2.0 Mono mix
    Commentary with Director Stuart Gordon
    Commentary with Producer Brian Yuzna and Actors Jeffrey Combs, Robert Sampson, Barbara Crampton and Bruce Abbott
    Lucasfilm THX Optimizer Audio-Video Test
    Dual Layer Disc (SSDL) for High Quality Picture and Sound


    Disc Two
    Animated Motion Menus
    New Video Interviews with Director Stuart Gordon and Producer Brian Yuzna
    New Video Interview with Writer Dennis Paoli
    New Video Interview with Composer Richard Band
    New Video Interview with Fangoria Editor Tony Timpone
    16 Extended Scenes (16 x 9 Anamorphic)
    Deleted Scene (16 x 9 Anamorphic)
    Theatrical Trailer (16 x 9 Anamorphic)
    5 TV Spots
    Music Discussion with Composer Richard Band (4 scenes)
    Multi-Angle Story Boards (3 scenes)
    Behind-The-Scenes Photo Gallery
    Biographies and Filmographies of Cast and Filmmakers
    Dual Layer Disc (SSDL) for high Quality Picture and Sound
    ----

    This certaintly is exciting news for the Richard Band fan. And the score will be isolated in 5.1 Dolby Digital, for superior sound. I am a huge fan of Band's Re-Animator score (and an even bigger fan of the compser himself), so this is indeed a wonderful thing.


    Dylan

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    posted 04-03-2002 02:54 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    The greatest horror scores ever (input needed)

    Well I thought Event Horizon was really creepy within the context of the movie when I saw it in theater. It left me very disturbed during the show.

    Howevener I was surprised at how listenable and enjoyable it is on CD.
    What do you guys think?


    NP- Icewind Dale (game soundtrack mp3s....considering a purchase)

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    posted 04-03-2002 02:57 PM PT (US)     

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    THE WICKER MAN is an incredibly wonderful horror film, both overlooked far too often and underrated by modern audiences that demand gobs of CGI effects and/or prosthetic appliances to sell the scare. I am therefore delighted to see its inclusion on a Best Of Horror list.

    But the score is very minimal indeed; it is largely scored with folk tunes. I might include, as a replacement, any of the following:

    THE FOG (Carpenter's best, and chilling)
    CAT PEOPLE (from Schrader's 1982 remake; Moroder's score is certainly not to everyone's taste, but is compelling and creepy)
    THE KEEP (best thing Tangerine Dream ever did, and stirring)
    CREEPSHOW (John Harrison's best work, and terrific both within its movie and as a listen-only experience)
    HORROR EXPRESS (John Cacavas' score is very, very, very damned creepy)

    Those are just the ones that I know can be readily obtained one way or another on CD. In the Classics area, it would be a shame not to mention the score for THE WOLF MAN for its remarkable and emblematic theme. When you heard that music (and it got used in many later & lesser films), you knew that Wolf Dude was a-prowlin'.

    Honorable mention:

    PRINCE OF DARKNESS
    CHRISTINE
    ARMY OF DARKNESS
    EXORCIST II: THE HERETIC
    DAY OF THE DEAD
    THE DUNWICH HORROR
    QUATERMASS AND THE PIT

    And I do agree with a great many of the suggestions above, notably THE THING; THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS; HORROR OF DRACULA; THE SHINING; and a good number of Band's scores for Full Moon.

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    posted 04-04-2002 10:52 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by MARK HATFIELD:
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    posted 04-04-2002 11:07 AM PT (US)     

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    Plenty of great suggestions there from the folks, Pete. I went back to your list though to see if I could add anything else you hadn't mentioned yourself.

    So, more or less in chronological order -

    KING KONG: or maybe not, because if you open the list up to that kind of fantasy movie, things could get unweildy. But great Steiner score, and a movie score landmark.

    HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME: Again, hardly horror, but it has horrific elements and a superb Newman score.

    Apart from the very fine and historically important BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, you could make room for a few other old Universals by Salter, Skinner etc. Lovely CDs from John Morgan.

    Apart from CAT PEOPLE, at least one more from the Lewton stable, music by Roy Webb.

    DEAD OF NIGHT: superb film, and a highly regarded Georges Auric score, though I can't remember it.

    BEAST WITH 5 FINGERS: borderline horror, with chilling Steiner use of Bach's Chaconne.

    NIGHT OF THE DEMON (CURSE OF THE DEMON): Clifton Parker did great film music.

    Apart from (HORROR) OF DRACULA, which is a must on your list, a couple more Hammer movies at least. I could add about 20, but I'll just say that THE MUMMY, by Franz Reizenstein, may well be my all-time fave Hammer score.

    THE THING (FROM ANOTHER WORLD): Maybe too SF-ish. If you put this in, you'd have to open the floodgates to THEM too. But great Tiomkin and Kaper scores anyway.

    (THE FALL OF THE) HOUSE OF USHER and PIT AND THE PENDULUM: both by Les Baxter, and both pinnacles of horrific achievement. Experimental, beautiful, haunting. Could maybe stick on other Corman things, like Ronald Stein's THE HAUNTED PALACE, or David Lee's very underrated MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH.

    THE SKULL: Amicus gave Hammer a run for their money in the 60s. Superb, hair-raising avant garde score by classical composer Elisabeth Lutyens.

    ROSEMARY'S BABY: is this on your list, Pete? If not, it should be.

    Now I'm forgetting what's on your list! Later Herrmann? (BLOOD) SISTERS, IT'S ALIVE, THE NIGHT DIGGER?

    A respected one from a Spanish movie, WHO CAN KILL A CHILD, by Waldo De Los Rios. He's an Argentinian James Last. People have mentioned that it's an effective, chilling score, using lullabies.

    YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN: or too funny?

    Tyburn appeared in the 70s, doing low budget Hammer-ish films. Two good scores by Harry Robinson: LEGEND OF THE WEREWOLF and THE GHOUL.

    Two more I must add. Gil Melle's absolutely thrilling score for THE SENTINEL. Huge, powerful, and quite unlike any other score I've ever heard. If you admit TV onto the list, Melle's FRANKENSTEIN THE TRUE STORY is equally amazing.

    No Lalo? What about THE AMITYVILLE HORROR?

    No Leonard? What about THE CAR?

    No Fried? Going back in time a bit, what about THE RETURN OF DRACULA? That may not be brilliant actually, but it's a lot of fun.

    I could go on, but I'm too tired. Just a few questions - Is this list supposed to be "best" scores or "most emblematic"?

    Re. BLACK SABBATH: is that the Nicolosi score or the Baxter one for the American release?

    Re. THEATRE OF BLOOD: great choice, but is THE MEDUSA TOUCH that good (both Michael J. Lewis)?

    Re. THE WICKER MAN: not really a score, but the songs and folk melodies are a vital part of a brilliant film. Keep it on the list.

    Re. ZOMBI, TENEBRAE, INFERNO: are they all that different? Certainly SUSPIRIA should stay there.

    Thumbs up for unanimously approved PSYCHO, THE OMEN, THE MEPHISTO WALTZ, POLTERGEIST...and were THE FURY and HELLRAISER approved unanimously? If so, good!

    Better stop.

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    posted 04-04-2002 01:07 PM PT (US)     

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    BE SURE TO INCLUDE THE VERY BEST MELODIC HORROR SCORE FOR A TELEVISION MOVIE

    - "PETER BENCHLEY'S THE BEAST" by Don Davis !!!

    Thumbs up also for Philippe Sarde's GHOST STORY. Thumbs loooooow down to Kilar's BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA - that score is only embarrassing with its "too-serious-and-still-filled-with-clicheés" sound.

    Wonderful to see John Williams' DRACULA on the list !!! Some other titles I'd like to mention:

    PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (1989, Misha Segal)
    JAWS 3-D (Alan Parker) Simply marvelous chase music !!!
    JAWS: THE REVENGE (Michael Small) Stupid movie, but great score !!
    THE ELEPHANT MAN (John Morris) Not a horror movie, but the score ranks among the true horror "classics".
    WHAT LIES BENEATH (Alan Silvestri)
    FEAR (1990, Henry Mancini)
    CAPE FEAR (Both Bernard Herrmann original and Elmer Bernstein adaptation)
    LEVIATHAN (Jerry Goldsmith)
    SPHERE (Elliot Goldenthal)
    PAPER HOUSE (Hans Zimmer)
    BAXTER (Marc Hillman & Patrick Roffé) Great theme !!
    NOSFERATU: EINE SYMPHONIE DES GRAUENS (Hans Erdmann original 1922 score)
    NOSFERATU: EINE SYMPHONIE DES GRAUENS (James Bernard score for Channel 4)
    THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (1925; Carl Davis score for Channel 4)
    ...and
    DRACULA: DEAD AND LOVING IT (Hummie Mann) This is serious stuff, man Really !!!

    KEN

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    posted 04-04-2002 01:56 PM PT (US)     

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    Not sure if you are looking for repetition. Lots of great suggestions above.

    The Changeling--really good!!
    The Night Walker is a Vic Mizzy score that is supposed to be pretty awesome, but I have not heard it, or seen the film.

    Can't believe no one has mentioned "The Sixth Sense" though.

    Not sure if Corigliano's "Altered States" counts since it is more sci-fi.

    What about "Poltergeist"?

    Gerald Fried has some great horror scores...pick one of the many.

    Beltrami's "Mimic" is pretty good.

    Music from Searle's "The Haunting"--not the remake.

    Maybe North's "The Bad Seed" might sneak by in the qualifying arena.


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    posted 04-04-2002 09:14 PM PT (US)     

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    Hellbound - Hellraiser 2 is by far the best horror score ever written!!!!!!

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    posted 04-05-2002 02:50 AM PT (US)     

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    Originally posted by Graham Watt:

    KING KONG: or maybe not, because if you open the list up to that kind of fantasy movie, things could get unweildy. But great Steiner score, and a movie score landmark.


    HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME: Again, hardly horror, but it has horrific elements and a superb Newman score.



    They're on the "maybe" list. Not sure if they count as horror enough. But agreed- terrific scores!
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    Apart from the very fine and historically important BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, you could make room for a few other old Universals by Salter, Skinner etc. Lovely CDs from John Morgan.

    Apart from CAT PEOPLE, at least one more from the Lewton stable, music by Roy Webb.



    Are there any specific ones you recommend I look into?
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    DEAD OF NIGHT: superb film, and a highly regarded Georges Auric score, though I can't remember it.

    Thank you. I've got the five minute suite on the Chandos CD, & it's really rather good. A definite candidate.
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    BEAST WITH 5 FINGERS: borderline horror, with chilling Steiner use of Bach's Chaconne.

    NIGHT OF THE DEMON (CURSE OF THE DEMON): Clifton Parker did great film music.



    Sadly haven't seen these yet. Still, it's going to be just a personal choice, & I'll probably make it updatable, so when I do hear things like these I'll be able to add them if I think it would be appropriate.

    The Night of the... title, though, reminded me of the British Night of the Eagle. A pretty good score by William Alwyn, with inventive use of Dies Irae at one point. A contender.

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    Apart from (HORROR) OF DRACULA, which is a must on your list, a couple more Hammer movies at least. I could add about 20, but I'll just say that THE MUMMY, by Franz Reizenstein, may well be my all-time fave Hammer score.

    Definitely more Hammer would be great. Can't quote decide which one(s) though. Too long since I've seen so many of the films. Still, have got the GDI compilations on the way, so will gain inspiration therefrom.
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    THE THING (FROM ANOTHER WORLD): Maybe too SF-ish. If you put this in, you'd have to open the floodgates to THEM too. But great Tiomkin and Kaper scores anyway.

    That's true. The Thing is on the list, but... It's quite hard to decide how to say within genres. Alien/3 are both sci-fi, but they're still awesome horror scores.
    Altered States is an awesome score, but is it horror-enough?
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    (THE FALL OF THE) HOUSE OF USHER and PIT AND THE PENDULUM: both by Les Baxter, and both pinnacles of horrific achievement. Experimental, beautiful, haunting. Could maybe stick on other Corman things, like Ronald Stein's THE HAUNTED PALACE, or David Lee's very underrated MASQUE OF THE RED DEATH.
    Re. BLACK SABBATH: is that the Nicolosi score or the Baxter one for the American release?


    Definitely need to get some Baxter on the list, but I don't think there's enough room for both Usher & Pit. So hard to choose, so I hadn't put either on. Unlike the Goblin scores...
    As for Black Sabbath, that was a bit of a cheat, by keeping it ambiguous as both. Wonder if I should have meant Sunday instead, though... Nicolosi's Sabbath score certainly re-uses Maschera del Demonio, but has more stuff too... Much pondering required here.
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    THE SKULL: Amicus gave Hammer a run for their money in the 60s. Superb, hair-raising avant garde score by classical composer Elisabeth Lutyens.

    Thanks. Another one I don't know yet, but will definitely have to seek out.
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    ROSEMARY'S BABY: is this on your list, Pete? If not, it should be.

    Oooh, no it isn't actually. I haven't seen the film for ages (& it's one I don't currently have in my collection), & can't really remember the score. However, I did recently rewatch Fearless Vampire Killers, & loved the score in that, particularly the voices in the main title. It may be a ouch too comedy, but I'm giving serious consideration to including it (similarly Young Frankenstein). How does it compare with Rosemary?
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    Now I'm forgetting what's on your list! Later Herrmann? (BLOOD) SISTERS, IT'S ALIVE, THE NIGHT DIGGER?

    Only heard Sisters of these. Still, it's pretty damn good stuff. Damn, it's going to be hard to get this list down to size...
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    A respected one from a Spanish movie, WHO CAN KILL A CHILD, by Waldo De Los Rios. He's an Argentinian James Last. People have mentioned that it's an effective, chilling score, using lullabies.

    One to seek out at some point.

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    Tyburn appeared in the 70s, doing low budget Hammer-ish films. Two good scores by Harry Robinson: LEGEND OF THE WEREWOLF and THE GHOUL.

    Again, not heard these. How do they compare to his Hammer scores? I'm particularly keen on his Twins of Evil - but then that's probably because it's one of my fave. hammer scores...
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    Two more I must add. Gil Melle's absolutely thrilling score for THE SENTINEL. Huge, powerful, and quite unlike any other score I've ever heard. If you admit TV onto the list, Melle's FRANKENSTEIN THE TRUE STORY is equally amazing.

    I keep hearing about this, but can't seem to find it (score or film) anywhere. Damnit, I want to hear this music!
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    No Lalo? What about THE AMITYVILLE HORROR?


    Like Rosemary, I haven't seen the film for ages, & don't recall the score at all. Must take a look again... Actually was thinking of including The Exorcist, so could have both the stuff in the film, & then also include Schifrins' rejected score. Again, it's a complete cheat, but...
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    Re. THEATRE OF BLOOD: great choice, but is THE MEDUSA TOUCH that good (both Michael J. Lewis)?

    Well, I've only heard it on CD, which makes it hard to say - it's actually on the unsure section. I really love the Destruction of the Cathedral cure, though.

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    Re. ZOMBI, TENEBRAE, INFERNO: are they all that different? Certainly SUSPIRIA should stay there.

    There's definitely too much Goblin on there, but I couldn't decide yet which ones (of my faves) to not include, so I put them all on for the time being. Some will disappear, though.
    Inferno, on the other hand, is Keith Emerson, & is very different. Some astonishingly audacious moments, but I can't entirely decide if it's genius or not.

    The list is not really supposed to be necessarily ABSOLUTE "best" or "most emblematic" exactly, but my personal choice of what I think are great scores. But when I got my wee list going, I realised that pretty much everything was from the last three decades, which I figured couldn't be right. Hence my asking for other opinions if there's anything particularly amazing that I'd missed, forgotten about, or just damn plain should get out & see.

    As for The Cell - maybe. Haven't seen the film yet, though. Anyway, am already thinking that maybe there's too much Shore on the list (if such a thing is possible).

    Need to see The Keep, though. Another I've not seen but would really like to. I do quite like Tangerine Dream, so...

    Anyway, am off now to watch Wolf Man again, & listen to the Quartermass CD.

    Thank you very much everyone who has given me their thoughts. You've been really helpful.

    Pete


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    posted 04-08-2002 08:36 AM PT (US)     

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    Ooh, one more random thought.

    Does Jaws count as a horror score, or is it more action-adventurey? If I include it, then I think I'm going to have to at least consider including The Ghost & the Darkness too. But then I wouldn't really call that a horror score...

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    posted 04-09-2002 08:12 AM PT (US)     

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    Pete! great list

    I've always had a very hard time considering JAWS horror....it's more of an adventure film, and sorry gang, but I've never found that much SCARY about it....SUSPENSE yes, scares no

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    posted 04-09-2002 08:43 AM PT (US)     

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    Yeah, that was my basic thinking on Jaws too.
    Anyway, I just updated the working list to take into account some of the suggestions. Damn, I've got to get rid of 21 titles. This ain't going to be easy. And I think that there will be a few more sneaking on there soon... Suddenly I'm not at all sure that this was a good idea.

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    posted 04-09-2002 10:03 AM PT (US)     

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    Pete, good to see your list updated to include some of the above suggestions! You really must hear the Reizenstein score for Hammer's THE MUMMY - if you do, it'll displace something I'm sure (but I don't know what!)

    Re. specific Universal horrors other than BRIDE OF FRANK. It's difficult for me to pick one that stands out, they're all good. MWRuger made some good suggestions above, mentioning what Marco Polo has released in the past. Have you heard those CDs?

    Same goes for the Lewton films scored by Roy Webb. I think that's another one that John Morgan did. I haven't heard it, but if you can get hold of it, it'll help you pick a favourite.

    How does ROSEMARY'S BABY compare to THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS? I'm not sure, I can't remeber FEARLESS very well. ROSEMARY is quite a startling work, using the now semi-famous lullaby as its base. Creepy moments abound, with throbbing double basses and distorted sound, wailing spookiness etc, and one truly mad track where the sax goes completely mental. Not a "textbook" score by any means, but a very original one from the late jazz composer. I think you'd like it!

    Is Harry Robinson's work on THE GHOUL and LEGEND OF THE WEREWOLF similar to his scores for Hammer? Very much in the same jugular vein, Pete. The main theme from WEREWOLF is heard with very little variation as a secondary theme in TWINS OF EVIL. Maybe these sores would be a bit "bitty" in their entirety, but the themes are memorable.

    About THE AMITYVILLE HORROR - that's a good one, very dissonant Schifrin, again using an unsettling child-like lilting melody as its main theme ("adapted" by Goldenthal for PETS SEMETARY). I read that Lalo is re-recording this on his Aleph label.

    That's all for now. Best of luck with your latest headache (getting that list down to 50)!

    Anyone recommend more great horror scores from the 30s, 40s, and 50s?

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    posted 04-10-2002 02:29 PM PT (US)     

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    I don't think anyone has mentioned these but I may have missed it so forgive me if I'm repeating someone. But Alan Silvestri's Predator and Predator 2 scores are excellent horror scores. I was just listening to them this after.

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    posted 04-10-2002 03:00 PM PT (US)     

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    That's right, John, PREDATOR is a fantastic score. I always thought it was spotted like Goldsmith would have done, with rapid build-ups, pregnant pauses etc. Phenomenally effective, though it's another example of something which might be more SF than horror (very horrific SF admittedly).

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