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    Topic:   The new Varese titles are...

     Steve Hughes
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    The Sand Pebbles: The Deluxe Edition
    Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

    Artist(s): Jerry Goldsmith
    Category: Soundtrack Club

    List Price: $19.98
    Our Price: $19.98


    The Fury: The Deluxe Edition
    Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

    Artist(s): John Williams
    Category: Soundtrack Club

    List Price: $24.98
    Our Price: $24.98


    Romancing The Stone
    Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

    Artist(s): Alan Silvestri
    Category: Soundtrack Club

    List Price: $19.98
    Our Price: $19.98


    The Bride
    Original Motion Picture Soundtrack

    Artist(s): Maurice Jarre
    Category: Soundtrack Club

    List Price: $14.98
    Our Price: $14.98

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    posted 07-29-2002 01:18 AM PT (US)     

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    ooohhh "Fury" and "Stone"

    --Brian

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    posted 07-29-2002 01:27 AM PT (US)     

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    ooohhh "Pebbles"

    --Jeron



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    posted 07-29-2002 02:38 AM PT (US)     

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    On a serious note, WOW! I'm picking them all up... with the exception of the Jarre title, which I have no clue about. Can anyone recommend? I'm psyched for a remastered Fury disc. That's gonna kick much booty (a clever play on words, if I must say so myself ).

    A *very* happy Jeron

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    posted 07-29-2002 02:39 AM PT (US)     

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    Initial reactions:

    THE FURY I'm not bothered with. I've already got Varese's standard issue, and I like it a lot, so I'm reluctant to pay another $25 plus shipping plus customs charges when I've already got one of the two discs. But I would certainly go for it if I hadn't got the old issue.

    I think the same goes for THE SAND PEBBLES. It just happens that I picked up Varese's RSNO rerecording a couple of months ago and in this instance I have to confess I wasn't bowled over by it. Maybe that's just me, but again, another $20 plus plus for something I've already got a version of.

    Now ROMANCING THE STONE I'm definitely up for. I liked the film way back in 1984 and noticed the music even then. It's one less reason to buy the CASTAWAY disc (in fact I'll then have everything except CASTAWAY), but I'll live with that...

    And I'll definitely get THE BRIDE. Firstly, though I'm not a big fan of Maurice Jarre, I seem to recall liking this when I saw the film. Secondly, it's only $15 and I don't already have it. Thirdly, if it encourages Varese to exhume more items from their back catalogue of vinyl-only releases (David Newman's KINDRED, Jay Chattaway's SILVER BULLET, Silvestri's CAT'S EYE, Bill Conti's F/X) then it's money well invested.

    NP: CONAN THE BARBARIAN (Basil Poledouris)

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    posted 07-29-2002 02:56 AM PT (US)     

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    A 2CD set for The Fury - wow! People have been saying that it should be a 2CD set, but I don't think anyone believed they'd really do it that way. I keep saying that it might be the best film score ever, and it's a great listen, too. Plus it's a remastered Deluxe Edition, so I guess we can expect it to sound as great as The Omen DE.

    Way to go!

    I must confess I've never heard Sand Pebbles. What's it like?

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    posted 07-29-2002 04:03 AM PT (US)     

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    Much ado about nothing. Take 4.

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    posted 07-29-2002 05:56 AM PT (US)     

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    Maybe Shaun will shut up about The Sand Pebbles now.

    There should be MUCH ADO about The Sand Pebbles, as it's one of Goldsmith's finest, featuring, I think, his best Eastern-influenced writing. I have an old LP re-recording of it, and I love it. Can't wait to hear the film tracks on CD.

    I got The Bride cuz it's only 15 bucks. Same strategy applied to Marie Ward and I was very pleasantly surprised by that one.

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    posted 07-29-2002 06:35 AM PT (US)     

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    But isn't The Bride already released on Laser Light records?

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    posted 07-29-2002 08:24 AM PT (US)     

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    Laser Light released GABY by Jarre....

    Sean

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    posted 07-29-2002 08:45 AM PT (US)     

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    Oh yeah I think your right

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    posted 07-29-2002 08:58 AM PT (US)     

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    You all are too funny.


    I happen to have all these things in one form or another myself...but did it stop me from buying the new ones? NO! Why? Because they are LONGER, Re-mastered and beautifully packaged.

    Ya know what's even funnier is that you'll all be whining when they are sold out and you can only get them on eBay at an ridiculous price.

    Jeeze...


    James

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    posted 07-29-2002 09:11 AM PT (US)     

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    James, do I need to clear the fog out of my glasses? Am I wearing glasses? (that might be the problem). Here's my tally:

    4 1/2 Yay
    1 1/2 Nay

    Richard's been split in half (Hi Richard!).

    It appears most people are excited about these.... including me. Bring on the Sand Pebbles! Lots of people asking for this one over the years....

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    posted 07-29-2002 09:36 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    James, do I need to clear the fog out of my glasses? Am I wearing glasses? (that might be the problem). Here's my tally:

    4 1/2 Yay
    1 1/2 Nay

    Richard's been split in half (Hi Richard!).

    It appears most people are excited about these.... including me. Bring on the Sand Pebbles! Lots of people asking for this one over the years....


    Peter,

    All I saw was whining over The Sand Pebbles(I have it already), Fury (I have it already), and Romancing The Stone (ho-hum).

    All they REALLY wanted was Predator, Commando and Back to The Future. Sci-fi and action. If they could have done a 2 CD True Romance by Hans Zimmer they all would be in heaven.

    I wasn't familiar with Varese's last releases (Ballad of Cable Houge, etc.) but I didn't think their release was unwarranted.

    James

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    posted 07-29-2002 09:44 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Bond1965:
    All I saw was whining over The Sand Pebbles(I have it already), Fury (I have it already), and Romancing The Stone (ho-hum).

    All they REALLY wanted was Predator, Commando and Back to The Future. Sci-fi and action. If they could have done a 2 CD True Romance by Hans Zimmer they all would be in heaven.

    I wasn't familiar with Varese's last releases (Ballad of Cable Houge, etc.) but I didn't think their release was unwarranted.[/B]


    Yes, I do have Varese's re-recordings of
    THE FURY and THE SAND PEBBLES. Money, especially right now, is too tight to justify buying albums I've already got (especially as the new FURY set includes the tracks I already have). That's not a whine, that's common sense. I did say, though, that if I hadn't picked up Varese's previous issues of THE SAND PEBBLES and THE FURY, I would go for the new versions without question. As for BACK TO THE FUTURE, I'd be surprised if Varese released it anyway: Parts 2 and 3 are already available AND there's the trilogy album which is also from Varese.

    Yes, I do want COMMANDO and I do want PREDATOR, and so do a lot of others. Remember too that these titles were bandied about a month ago (see the FSM thread http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=9097&forumID=1), and in that discussion the original tracks for THE FURY were compared, somewhat unfavourably, with the album version.

    Wouldn't bother with a TRUE ROMANCE album, though...

    NP: PRESUMED INNOCENT (John Williams)

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    posted 07-29-2002 11:30 AM PT (US)     

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    James, ok I'll join you for a boxing match!

    First, I want to make sure I receive the full impact of your left jab:

    Apparently, "all" these collectors whine and whine about stuff that's been released previously, whether it be a re-recording (Sand Pebbles), one cut on a comp (Romancing the Stone) or as a regular release (The Fury).

    My one-two combo to the head in the first round tried to get you to see that not "all" are whining (in fact, the minority are whining). Unfortunately the one-two was more effective than planned.... your eyes have swollen shut! Gasp! We're just in the second round?

    But wait... a strong right hook is coming.

    By your assessment of the current whining, we can clearly assume everyone would whine if Varese released Predator, Commando and Back to the Future, as these all previously "exist" as bootlegs. Those who have these boots will whine that they're completely satisfied with their boots and will find no reason to shell out $20 "just because it's right."

    Reality check.

    DING DING!!

    Bring on The Sand Pebbles... can't wait to hear people's reactions to The Bride.

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    posted 07-29-2002 11:36 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    Here's my tally:

    4 1/2 Yay
    1 1/2 Nay

    Richard's been split in half (Hi Richard!).


    Ouch.....That hurts!

    I'm NOT whining. I've already ordered two of them, for crying out loud. For the other two, I've given reasons why I haven't ordered them. That's all.

    NP: PRESUMED INNOCENT (John Williams) - another boring worthless useless pointless stupid damned Varese frisbee I wish I hadn't bothered buying and I can't figure out why Varese bothered putting this third rate drinks coaster out when they could have done a 2-CD deluxe remastered FRIDAY THE 13TH PART VII.... (That's whining.)

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    posted 07-29-2002 11:46 AM PT (US)     

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    The Bride is a beaut, can't wait to order it and review it(somewhere!).

    It all hinges on if you like the theme...it's not a monothematic score, but the theme will alternate with a couple others every few tracks. Suburb playing by the RPO, they achieve a really symphonic sound here.

    The Jarre sucks/Jarre rules debate is boring, and I can't play since I love his work, unconditionally. Those who are fans must have this one, and I'm sure there 1000 of us right thinking collectors out there.

    The Ondes Martenot in this score isn't overdone(at least for me), so don't let that scare you off either....hey, at 15 bucks and such a small run, what the hell?

    There, got that off me chest,
    Sean

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    posted 07-29-2002 11:49 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    James, ok I'll join you for a boxing match!

    First, I want to make sure I receive the full impact of your left jab:

    Apparently, "all" these collectors whine and whine about stuff that's been released previously, whether it be a re-recording (Sand Pebbles), one cut on a comp (Romancing the Stone) or as a regular release (The Fury).

    My one-two combo to the head in the first round tried to get you to see that not "all" are whining (in fact, the minority are whining). Unfortunately the one-two was more effective than planned.... your eyes have swollen shut! Gasp! We're just in the second round?

    But wait... a strong right hook is coming.

    By your assessment of the current whining, we can clearly assume everyone would whine if Varese released Predator, Commando and Back to the Future, as these all previously "exist" as bootlegs. Those who have these boots will whine that they're completely satisfied with their boots and will find no reason to shell out $20 "just because it's right."

    Reality check.

    [b]DING DING!!

    Bring on The Sand Pebbles... can't wait to hear people's reactions to The Bride.[/B]


    Nice boxing metaphor.

    You're right...all they do is whine because their idea of what should come out and the reality doesn't match.

    Hell...I'm still waiting on John Barry's "Hanover Street" to one day materialize...doesn't mean that I am going to bitch if someone puts out "The Conversation" (Intrada), "I, Spy" (FSM) or "Romancing The Stone" (Varese).

    I just was amazed at a lack of "enthusiasm" about it. And it wasn't just here...it was on FSM's board too.

    I understand for some the $92 and change to buy all four CDs is expensive. Just remember...eBayers will sell them for more when they are GONE.

    James (wearing sunglasses because PeterK's boxing match left my eyes all puffed up an bruised...the BEAST)

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    posted 07-29-2002 11:49 AM PT (US)     

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    Hell Varese could have put out a 3 disc set of Spartacus and people would still whine. I'm happy for the releases, no matter what they are. At least Varese is making an effort to get scores out. You never know, the next batch may contain that one rare score you are looking for and then someone else will bitch.

    At least people here are taking it better than the crying over at FSM about the releases.

    for the record I got The Fury and The Sand Pebbles.

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    posted 07-29-2002 11:55 AM PT (US)     

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    Anyone who doesn't buy The Sand Pebbles is crazy. It's 25 minutes longer than the rerecording (and I'd argue that if you have the rerecording you do NOT have the best performance of the score) and it's one of Goldsmith's best scores. In short, you DON'T "already have" this score! You only have a taste of it. I've wanted this thing complete for decades--I just hope all my favorite cues are on there!

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    posted 07-29-2002 12:42 PM PT (US)     

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    And whats up with THE FURY?

    Is that the one where she says "Go to Hell" and his head blows up...or was that Scanners?...(or both?) Anyhow, I have such a vague recollection of this film from TV, whats the music like?

    Mark

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    posted 07-29-2002 01:20 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Bond1965:
    I understand for some the $92 and change to buy all four CDs is expensive. Just remember...eBayers will sell them for more when they are GONE.

    Are they going to go yet? Or any time soon? None of Varese's other club discs have sold out yet (or at least, they're still listed on their site).

    NP: ATLANTIS (James Newton Howard)

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    posted 07-29-2002 01:40 PM PT (US)     

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    Actually this is the first time that I want each one of the CD's that have been announced.

    Anyone want to buy them for me? I never said I had the money for them.

    Kevin

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    posted 07-29-2002 02:39 PM PT (US)     

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    I can't believe anyone would complain about these four releases. The Fury is a particular favorite of mine and I'm eager to hear the original film version. (I also enjoyed Heartbeeps, but I realize that one's not for everyone.)

    I'd like to see CD releases of Monsignor, and an expanded Dracula '79, as both capture the "dark" Williams sound, like The Fury, and both could benefit from remastering. Monsignor, incredibly, has never had a legit CD release!

    Way to go Varese!

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    posted 07-29-2002 02:56 PM PT (US)     

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    Who would have thought they'd ever see the day when a 76 minute release of the original recording of Goldsmith's Sand Pebbles would be met with such non-chalance. It boggles the mind...

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    posted 07-29-2002 03:09 PM PT (US)     

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    I agree with others here that all four releases are goodies. I am not that familiar with THE BRIDE, but my friend Todd swears by it and last year even made the comment that Varese should re-release it from their back catalogue (it had been released by them in the 80's). I have the Varese re-recording of THE SAND PEBBLES, but I've always known that I have to hear the full score, original recording. These 2 I ordered immediately, but I still want the others. Hopefully, they'll be around for a few months...

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    posted 07-29-2002 03:11 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Richard Street:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Bond1965:
    [b]I understand for some the $92 and change to buy all four CDs is expensive. Just remember...eBayers will sell them for more when they are GONE.
    <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Are they going to go yet? Or any time soon? None of Varese's other club discs have sold out yet (or at least, they're still listed on their site).

    NP: ATLANTIS (James Newton Howard)[/B]


    Well...I remember the early days when everyone was "poo-pooing" the release of a little score to a never seen film called "Cherry 2000." Now that CD goes for quite a lot.

    Granted these CDs won't sell out tomorrow...but I wouldn't wait a year or so.

    James

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    posted 07-29-2002 03:16 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by SPQR:
    Who would have thought they'd ever see the day when a 76 minute release of the original recording of Goldsmith's Sand Pebbles would be met with such non-chalance. It boggles the mind...

    C'mon...you know everyone really wanted expanded delux CDs of Goldsmith's scores for "Link," "Mr. Baseball," and "Mom and Dad Save The World."

    What's with this "Old" stuff. "The Sand Pebbles?" What was that...done in the 60's? Who wants film music that wasn't from a movie in the last 20 years?

    Kiddingly,

    James

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    posted 07-29-2002 03:19 PM PT (US)     

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    I still don't see too many whining sentiments in this thread, and can only assume "so many whiners" might have something to do with the yet-unseen-by-my-eyes complaints going on at FSM.

    However, I would suggest that, instead of whining about the whiners, why not take this opportunity to let the "young" audience (those who supposedly want the Mom and Dad Save the World expanded five disc set) know their money would be well spent on this most definitive Sand Pebbles release?

    Perhaps the "younger" audience doesn't care about older scores simply because the people who like the older stuff are more crotchety and yell at them for "whining"? Could be.... just a thought.

    Having said that, thank you Jeff Bond. That's the kind of message I am talking about. One that says "you gotta be nuts not to want it" without being el crochitivo.

    Like I said, just a thought in the ol' noggin. Still, I might be talking to a brick wall, as there's not that much whining going on in this thread....

    DING DING!

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    posted 07-29-2002 04:20 PM PT (US)     

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    Wha???

    There's a 5-disc Mom & Dad Save the World? Why haven't I heard this before?!?!? And where can I get it?!?!?

    [Message edited by Kevin on 07-29-2002]

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    posted 07-29-2002 05:12 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    why not take this opportunity to let the "young" audience (those who supposedly want the Mom and Dad Save the World expanded five disc set) know their money would be well spent on this most definitive Sand Pebbles release?

    Because we the whiners have seen the movie about 5 times already, and always the score seems nice, but no more than that.


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    posted 07-29-2002 05:38 PM PT (US)     

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    BIG thumbs up!

    The Fury remastered?!? 2CDs?!?!?!?! Come on, it's a no-brainer!

    And naturally, I'm looking forward the pitching these awful f*cking Sand Pebbles discs I have (the Tsunami and Varese's recorded at sea......from the shore version).

    Romancing The Stone I haven't ever been too crazy about (enlighten me if you must), and I'm still convinced that Jarre died 20 years ago and that none of his scores, save for Witness, ever existed.

    Shaun

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    posted 07-29-2002 07:06 PM PT (US)     

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    Duder, The Bride is a great effort from him, a great blend of his two sensibilities, the symphonic score and the electronics he was tinkering around with back then. Also, if you've never heard it, Tai-Pan is MAGNIFIQUE.
    The Fury, the original film tracks... My god, man... I never thought I'd see the day...

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    posted 07-29-2002 08:34 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, I will look into the matter....

    Shaun

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    posted 07-29-2002 08:49 PM PT (US)     

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    THE BRIDE???

    Well if they're gonna go back into their back catalog, why not a re-release of SWAMP THING for pete's sake! i've actually held in my hands a vinyl copy of that soundtrack, released by Varese. Still doesn't mean it needs re-releasing. I wasn't all that impressed with the Bride, but if it makes a fan happy- man, I will say no more.

    But my point is, if they can do that, then why not a soundtrack club limited edition release of RUNAWAY? Ten to one is that such a release will become an inevitability. I should be lucky they're releasing some first time gems like Romancing The Stone.

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    posted 07-30-2002 05:54 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
    I'm still convinced that Jarre died 20 years ago and that none of his scores, save for Witness, ever existed.

    Shaun


    Shaun,

    I agree with you on your comments above with the exception of SUNSHINE. I think this score ranks up there with some of his best.

    Do you own it?

    It’s gorgeous, epic and noble score. The track 'The Sonnenscheins', is worth the price of the disc alone. This track is a resounding finale, which is performance magnificently by full orchestra, female solo and choir. The only unfortunate thing about this album is the running length. It's only 36 minutes long! Oh ya, it’s a Shawn Murphy recorded score as well

    Besides those problems it’s a great score!!!

    -Erik-

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    posted 07-30-2002 06:38 AM PT (US)     

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    What about Walk in the Clouds & Moon over Parador? Those are both nice symphonic scores that certainly deserve more consideration than a curt dismissal as “Never Existing” I grant that his electronic/synth stuff is a hard listen, I wouldn’t count Jarre as dead unless you are willing to do without Shogun, Passage to India & I Dreamed of Africa.

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    posted 07-30-2002 08:44 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by MWRuger:
    What about Walk in the Clouds & Moon over Parador? Those are both nice symphonic scores that certainly deserve more consideration than a curt dismissal as “Never Existing” I grant that his electronic/synth stuff is a hard listen, I wouldn’t count Jarre as dead unless you are willing to do without Shogun, Passage to India & I Dreamed of Africa.


    Add in there DEAD POETS SOCIETY... I forgot about that one. Great finale music. Love those bagpipes!!!

    -Erik-

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    posted 07-30-2002 08:46 AM PT (US)     

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    Dudes, I was just kidding. His synth stuff is wretched.

    The "theme" from Sunshine is quite good, and again, I was kidding.

    Shaun

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