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    Topic:   Clarifying the TTT Release

     dgoldwas
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    Tired of those silly internet rumors? Well, here's the official word. And wouldn't ya know it... it's just like I said.
    http://www.soundtrack.net/news/article/?id=411

    And since I know many of you are too lazy to click, here's the tracklisting. (Eat that, Brian!)

    1. Foundations Of Stone
    2. The Taming Of Sméagol
    3. The Riders Of Rohan
    4. The Passage Of The Marshes
    5. The Uruk-hai
    6. The King Of The Golden Hall
    7. The Black Gate Is Closed
    8. Evenstar (featuring Isabel Bayrakdarian)
    9. The White Rider
    10. Treebeard
    11. The Leave Taking
    12. Helm's Deep
    13. The Forbidden Pool
    14. Breath Of Life (featuring Sheila Chandra)
    15. The Hornburg
    16. Forth Eorlingas (featuring Ben Del Maestro)
    17. Isengard Unleashed (featuring Elizabeth Fraser & Ben Del Maestro)
    18. Samwise The Brave
    19. Gollum's Song (performed by Emiliana Torrini)
    20. (Bonus Track): Farewell To Lórien (featuring Hilary Summers)

    (Bonus track only available on the Limited Edition releases....)

    Dan

    [Message edited by dgoldwas on 11-01-2002]

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    posted 11-01-2002 10:55 AM PT (US)     

     Bond1965
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    Well Dan,

    Thanks for the info. I'm sure everyone would pat you on the back, but it seems you've done a more than adequate job yourself.

    James

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    posted 11-01-2002 11:02 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Good job! But what's with the super special third release??

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    posted 11-01-2002 11:08 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    Yeah! The super-special third release! Maybe if you could stop patting yourself on the back for a minute, you could find out the information about that.

    And of course I don't see track times anywhere.... Hmm. Brian, can you help out on this?

    Kevin

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    posted 11-01-2002 11:14 AM PT (US)     

     Ed
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Kevin:
    Yeah! The super-special third release! Maybe if you could stop patting yourself on the back for a minute, you could find out the information about that.

    Kevin


    It's only available at TARGET!

    Whoops. Wrong trilogy. So sorry.

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    posted 11-01-2002 11:20 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    The third release is still being finalized. It's gonna happen. It will be a limited release of 5,000 discs. It will be available only online, most likely through Reprise, and offered to folks in the LOTR fan club, mailing lists, and other stuff like that. (So if you ever saw something that asked you to "sign up", and you did, you'll be offered it.)

    As for what the extras will be.... as I said: "More details will be announced shortly." (I don't know these details yet.)

    quote:
    Originally posted by Kevin:
    And of course I don't see track times anywhere....

    That's cause they weren't provided. And does it REALLY matter? It's gonna be a pretty full disc, even with the CD-ROM content (like last time, it didn't take up much space....)

    Dan

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    posted 11-01-2002 11:28 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Cool.

    --Brian

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    posted 11-01-2002 11:57 AM PT (US)     

     mtodd
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    So I should wait for the third release...

    Mark

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    posted 11-01-2002 12:00 PM PT (US)     

     Ed
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    \As for what the extras will be.... as I said: "More details will be announced shortly." (I don't know these details yet.)

    Dan


    I realize you don't know the specifics, but in general are there rumblings of more music, or CD-ROM material or maybe a collectable sticker or something? How impatient should we be? Perspiring minds want to know.

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    posted 11-01-2002 12:50 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    Wait people The info will come as soon as Dan has it

    Patience

    --Bri

    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 11-01-2002]

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    posted 11-01-2002 01:07 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Ed:
    I realize you don't know the specifics, but in general are there rumblings of more music, or CD-ROM material or maybe a collectable sticker or something? How impatient should we be? Perspiring minds want to know.

    Ed,

    As you yourself correctly point out, I don't know the specifics yet. So any conjecture on my part would simply add fire to rumors that my original post was trying to clarify.

    So, until I know more, I'm not gonna say.

    Dan

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    posted 11-01-2002 01:29 PM PT (US)     

     Ed
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Ed:
    [b]I realize you don't know the specifics, but in general are there rumblings of more music, or CD-ROM material or maybe a collectable sticker or something? How impatient should we be? Perspiring minds want to know.
    <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Ed,

    As you yourself correctly point out, I don't know the specifics yet. So any conjecture on my part would simply add fire to rumors that my original post was trying to clarify.

    So, until I know more, I'm not gonna say.

    Dan[/B]


    You are a man of principle, sir. Darn it.

    It'll be worth the wait.


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    posted 11-01-2002 02:28 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Ed:
    You are a man of principle, sir. Darn it.

    It'll be worth the wait.


    A man of principle? Now wonder we don't get all the "inside" stuff!

    The horrors! A man of principle on the internet!!! I can't stand it.

    Giev me that old tyme conjecture and speculation!

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    posted 11-01-2002 03:34 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    That's cause they weren't provided. And does it REALLY matter? It's gonna be a pretty full disc, even with the CD-ROM content (like last time, it didn't take up much space....)

    Well Dan, I guess it matters to me in a curiousity way. I mean, yeah we're mostg likely talking about a 75+ minute CD, but it's nice to know how long tracks are. Are there a few short ones, and then long epic passages? And are these tracks you posted (with the "featuring...") info: are these songs in the sense of "songs" or the type that Enya did for FOTR?

    I'm curious, that's all.


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    posted 11-01-2002 04:49 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    From Dan's Press Agent:

    When he has the info, he'll post it.

    Thank You all for your support

    --Brian


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    posted 11-01-2002 04:58 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Kevin:
    I guess it matters to me in a curiousity way.

    Kevin,

    You know what they say curiosity did to the cat..... When I know more (track times, song info, etc.) I will let you know. I CAN say, though, that the "songs" for the most part appear to be (based on my info) similar to the songs IN the score (you know, sung in Elvish, etc...), except for "Gollum's Song", which appears to be a "regular" song. (More like "In Dreams" than "May It Be".)

    Dan

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    posted 11-01-2002 05:17 PM PT (US)     

     rachmaninov
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    Great! Thanks!

    Will there be an special edition of the soundtracks trilogy once the three of them are released?

    Rach

    [Message edited by rachmaninov on 11-01-2002]

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    posted 11-01-2002 05:39 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    quote:
    Originally posted by rachmaninov:
    Will there be an spetial edition of the soundtracks trilogy once the three of them are released?

    Probably.

    Dan

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    posted 11-01-2002 05:44 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    So will there be any possiblity for lesser mortals like me to get that special limited thing? Or should I just better not care to begin with?

    1. Foundations Of Stone

    Interesting title.

    14. Breath Of Life (featuring Sheila Chandra)

    This too.

    16. Forth Eorlingas (featuring Ben Del Maestro)

    Could this be some sort of battle song!?

    18. Samwise The Brave

    No Shelob in the movie and yet a brave Samwise? Interesting.

    19. Gollum's Song (performed by Emiliana Torrini)

    Sounds cool as well.

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    posted 11-01-2002 06:36 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    I thought, like FOTR, that the track titles were (for the most part) named after chapters in the books....

    Dan

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    posted 11-01-2002 06:56 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    I thought, like FOTR, that the track titles were (for the most part) named after chapters in the books....

    Well, I just so happen to have my copy of TTT here at hand, so...

    * - indicates chapter title

    1. Foundations Of Stone
    2. The Taming Of Sméagol*
    3. The Riders Of Rohan*
    4. The Passage Of The Marshes*
    5. The Uruk-hai*
    6. The King Of The Golden Hall*
    7. The Black Gate Is Closed*
    8. Evenstar (featuring Isabel Bayrakdarian)
    9. The White Rider*
    10. Treebeard*
    11. The Leave Taking
    12. Helm's Deep
    13. The Forbidden Pool*
    14. Breath Of Life (featuring Sheila Chandra)
    15. The Hornburg
    16. Forth Eorlingas (featuring Ben Del Maestro)
    17. Isengard Unleashed (featuring Elizabeth Fraser & Ben Del Maestro)
    18. Samwise The Brave
    19. Gollum's Song (performed by Emiliana Torrini)
    20. (Bonus Track): Farewell To Lórien (featuring Hilary Summers)


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    posted 11-01-2002 07:20 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    "Forth Eorlingas" is a phrase from the book as well (Rohirrim war cry), but no chapter title.

    NP: Goldsmith conducts Goldsmith

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    posted 11-01-2002 07:24 PM PT (US)     

     Jim Ware
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    'Long time I fell, and he fell with me. His fire was about me, and I was burned. Then we plunged into the deep water and all was dark....There I came at last, to the uttermost foundations of stone.'

    I think this solves the mystery of the film's opening.

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    posted 11-02-2002 06:13 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Oooh, excellent! And you're more witty than the people at TheOneRing.net. I tried to avoid the movie spoilers by not reading too many of the opening scene speculations, but I know that one idea was they might open with the Balrog fight - and yet when they read the tracklisting, they thought "Foundations of Stone" might be a referece to Emyn Muil (sp?).

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    posted 11-02-2002 06:58 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    well, one of the "songs" in the score is sung in Dwarvish, called "The Abyss" - and underscores Gandalf's fight with the Balrog. It could very well be part of "Foundations of Stone"....

    Dan

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    posted 11-02-2002 08:56 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Hmm, that's very likely then. The only other title that could fit is Breath of Life, but it seems to be too late in the track order, several tracks after White Rider.

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    posted 11-02-2002 11:40 AM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    quote:
    20. (Bonus Track): Farewell To Lórien (featuring Hilary Summers)

    If that's the cue I think it is from the expanded cut DVD edition then I've just wet myself.

    Dan

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    posted 11-02-2002 12:21 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Dan (Brecher), do you think that's the cue that accompanies the chapter you mentioned watching 7 or 8 times from the extended cut?

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    posted 11-02-2002 01:20 PM PT (US)     

     Jim Ware
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    Dan, how did you get a copy of the extended DVD so early? Mine won't be with me until Tuesday!

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    posted 11-02-2002 01:56 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I hate you. Both of you.

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    posted 11-02-2002 02:46 PM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    Jeron,

    I do yes... Firstly, that specific chapter (14) on disc 2 of the extended cut is also titled 'Farewell to Lorien' and it's the longest new cue in that 6 and a half minute sequence.

    There are two vocal portions in the cue, the main one is a very soft female choir backing which is just so moving it hurts, then there is a granderfemale choir motif as Galadriel bids farewell to Frodo which is equally moving.

    What part Hilary Summers played I have no idea, enless she provided the backing for the female choir bit and they just layered here voice or something because their is no lead vocal to this cue as heard in the extended cut...
    It could be the same cue still, but with a lead vocal not heard in even the extended cut. What's clear to me is this is an important cue to both PJ and Shore (rightly so, it's stunning as is the entire scene), and it's noted and briefly isolated in the music featurette on disc 4, and now it looks to be on the ltd TT score CD. There's obviously a want from the production team to have people hear this cue...


    Jim,

    Importers of Region 1 DVD products here in the UK have no reason to stick to US streedates... I've had Episode II sat here since Thursday too.

    Dan

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    posted 11-03-2002 02:19 PM PT (US)     

     nightwing
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    I know this has nothing to do about the score (Ok, I can't wait to hear it) but the one thing I'm looking forward to most in this movie is seeing the Ents. Well, that and the Oliphunt (or however you spell it).

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    posted 11-03-2002 09:42 PM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    I did just re-check the FOTR extended credits, and Hilary Summers is not credited so whatever she contributes to that cue we'll hear on the ltd Two Towers is not heard within the film. Curious...

    Elizabeth Fraser is credited with Enya, Edward Ross...etc for (non specified) vocal duties.

    Dan

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    posted 11-04-2002 07:19 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    Hey Dan,

    From your place....

    quote:
    There is also going to be a special third release of the score, in a limited run of 5,000 copies, that would only be available online. More details will be announced shortly.

    Any more news/clarification?


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    posted 11-08-2002 07:51 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    From Dan's Press Agent:

    News will come when Dan and soundtrack.net have it.

    Patience

    --Brian

    NP: Harry Potter / Chamber

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    posted 11-08-2002 10:42 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
    Patience


    Hey! I ain't no doctor (though I play one on tv).

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    posted 11-09-2002 07:03 AM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    ...and what about this rumour that the normal release will be out on the 25th/26th of this month, with the LE not appearing until the 9th/10th?

    I'm not listening to it (except for the FOTR track, obviously!) until after I see the film, so I don't really care anyway. Just thought I'd stick that in & confuse people!

    NP The Who: Who's Next

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    posted 11-09-2002 03:51 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    I'm re-reading Two Towers, and if you want to be surprised by the film, don't read the book again. After reading a certain passage and looking at the track listings, I know how the film's going to start.

    And wow, what a start!

    Kevin

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    posted 11-17-2002 01:00 PM PT (US)     

     Pete M
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    I read it last year, so it's not too fresh in my memory at the moment. I'm probably going to restart reading the whole kaboodle when I finish The Hobbit, which I'm reading at the mo.

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