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Hector J. Guzman Standard Userer	Visting the Cincinnati Pops website I found out that Kunzel will be recording a CD of suites from films by Rósza. Then in May he´ll conduct a program featuring Rósza´s music. Cincinnati Pops 2003-2004 season NP. Williams Olympic Fanfare and Theme U.S. Army Herald Trumpets National Symphony Orchestra John Williams
posted 07-05-2003 10:46 PM PT (US)

James Standard Userer	That's great news!! Kunzel's recordings of music from EL CID and BEN-HUR on The Great Fantasy Adventure Album and Hollywood's Greatest Hits, respectively, are fantastic. Of course, as always, I'm having fearful premonitions of hearing a synthesizer in suites from Spellbound and The Lost Weekend instead of a real theremin. I hope someone gives Rob Schwimmer a call. Kirk
posted 07-05-2003 11:51 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	GimmeGimmeGimmeGimmeGimmeGimme.
posted 07-06-2003 06:41 AM PT (US)

Bob Bowd Standard Userer	This is great news, indeed!! Unrecorded music from EL CID would be a superb gift to filmmusic collectors. His recording of "Entry of the Nobles" is superior to the one done by Elmer Bernstein, in my ear. BB
posted 07-06-2003 09:10 AM PT (US)

Jim M Standard Userer	You can never have enough performances of Rozsa's music. I'm not a huge fan of Kunzel, but I will look into this one!
posted 07-06-2003 09:16 AM PT (US)

Hector J. Guzman Standard Userer	I overlooked this, this is very interesting: quote: • Music from epic movies, recorded in September 2001 and October 2002; scheduled for release in September 2003. • Orchestral blockbusters, to be recorded in May 2003; scheduled for release in March 2004. NP. Rósza Fanfare and Entry of the Nobles from El Cid Cincinnati Pops Orchestra Erich Kunzel
posted 07-06-2003 09:50 AM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	The first one was announced a few weeks back by High Fidelity Review as Epics to be released on CD and SACD.
posted 07-06-2003 10:14 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Standard Userer	I really wish Spellbound was represented better on CD. It looks like an old re-recording that Ray Heindorf did was released on CD in the late 1980s but that's long gone. I own one enjoyable track from this recording on the Sonic Images Gone With the Wind disc, but I feel it's just a tease. Is everybody scared to re-record this because of the theremin or is it because the music is pretty much monothematic and a bit repetitive? I watched the movie recently and it seemed like the score was mostly the theme repeated again and again, but it still seemed like something that would make a decent standalone listen. NP: Lame musicians attempt to play Moross music
posted 07-06-2003 03:55 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by jonathan_little: NP: Lame musicians attempt to play Moross music Frankly, you wouldn't know lame musicians if they bite you in the ass, in Ford's humble opinion of course. Can't ya just wait till the City of Prague Symphony Orchestra records the complete music of Max Steiner, Morton Gould, Bernard Herrmann and Dmitry Shostakovich?
posted 07-06-2003 04:23 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Standard Userer	I can hear Mr. Herrmann bitching and screaming from the heavens above already... But Dinko, we don't know nuthin because we ain't INTELLIENT.
posted 07-06-2003 04:36 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by jonathan_little: But Dinko, we don't know nuthin because we ain't INTELLIENT. There is absolutely no way that I can disagree with that statement.
posted 07-06-2003 04:59 PM PT (US)

Jim M Standard Userer	While were at it..Is this topic about "Rosza", or ROZSA.. If Avie WAS ABLE to post here, this would have been brought up long ago on this thread..
posted 07-06-2003 06:52 PM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Standard Userer	I like Kunzel a lot. Although, in some of his versions of film music that I went ga-ga over initially, repeated listening has pointed out the cracks. Still, his version of El Cid does indeed outshine Elmer's and it'll be interesting to hear just what Rozsa winds up under his baton.
posted 07-06-2003 08:49 PM PT (US)

Bob Bowd Standard Userer	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Lou Goldberg: I like Kunzel a lot. Although, in some of his versions of film music that I went ga-ga over initially, repeated listening has pointed out the cracks. Still, his version of El Cid does indeed outshine Elmer's and it'll be interesting to hear just what Rozsa winds up under his baton.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Lou, I tend to share your opinion about Kunzel. His output is uneven. HOLLYWOOD'S GREATEST HITS, for example, is an inferior one. The FANTASY themes compilation is particularly good. I have been listening to the MEGA THEMES compilation, which I obtained at a discount price, recently. The intitial impression is, wow!, but repeated listenings reveal some lazy interpretations of the original themes. I lean towards the viewpoint that the problem is in the reconstructions, not the conducting. That is just an avid layman's opinion. As the Rozsa content was recorded over a 12 month period, and is 'in the can', so to speak, does anyone have the scoop on the content of this disc? The announced content for the EPICS theme concert, subsequent to the September release of the CD, leans towards KING OF KINGS, BEN-HUR, and QUO VADIS, but no mention of EL CID. Bob [Message edited by Bob Bowd on 07-08-2003]
posted 07-07-2003 02:20 PM PT (US)

joan hue Standard Userer	Jim said, "If Avie WAS ABLE to post here,"...Just what does that mean? I assume he is still here and able to post. Right? NP The World the Flesh the Devil
posted 07-07-2003 07:40 PM PT (US)

Jim M Standard Userer	To answer your question Joan,... NO, I don't believe Avie can post right now...
posted 07-07-2003 09:33 PM PT (US)

Bob Bowd Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Jim M: To answer your question Joan,... NO, I don't believe Avie can post right now... Jim, I am saddened to read this. I do wish Avie happiness and inner peace. How is it that you have come to be the bearer of this news? Bob
posted 07-08-2003 07:54 AM PT (US)

Hector J. Guzman Standard Userer	Who´s Avie?
posted 07-08-2003 10:28 AM PT (US)

Dana Wilcox Standard Userer	Avie Hern, AKA perfpitch, AKA originalthinkr, good fellow in many ways (though you will hear opposing opinions), a knowledgeable man who has strong beliefs and states them in ways that tend to ruffle feathers. He was relieved of his sign-on privileges at FSM for daring to utter a political opinion when all such opinions are strictly verboten. Since political discussion did not seem to be a problem here, it looked as though Avie was doing okay. Obviously something changed, but those who know ain't sayin'. If anyone can fill us in on this, I'd appreciate it.
posted 07-08-2003 06:19 PM PT (US)

joan hue Standard Userer	Thank you, Dana. I too would like to know why he is not here. I'm hoping it is due to traveling, not banning.
posted 07-08-2003 06:36 PM PT (US)

Jim M Standard Userer	I hope it's just a "glitch" that he is unable to post..I really do..Or something really Stinks in Denmark...(Or on this board)I believe you all know where to reach him, by e-mail..I would rather leave it to him to explain further if he wishes..I consider Avie a friend..And I hope he returns here.. [Message edited by Jim M on 07-08-2003]
posted 07-08-2003 09:15 PM PT (US)

SirT Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by joan hue: Thank you, Dana. I too would like to know why he is not here. I'm hoping it is due to traveling, not banning. I don't known about this temporary(?) absence from this board, but those who like myself deride much pleasure from Original's wit and knowledge can still follow his exploits on the Rozsa forum as Lee Hern, and on the Bernard Herrmann Society forum as Mr Scratch.
posted 07-09-2003 12:14 AM PT (US)

Jim M Standard Userer	Gee, SirT, I don't seem to recall any special fondness between yourself and Original while on the FSM board ? As I recall, even as a liberal, he was not a huge fan of your native land. (France) And many of your posts. But how open minded of you now to seek out HIS posts..This is a shocker...But a nice one .. I guess..
posted 07-09-2003 01:17 AM PT (US)

Bob Bowd Standard Userer	Jim, Thanks for your kind response. Avie is a friend and I did contact him, directly, to determine his reading on what was happening. I will not get into the suspected politics, as I have no direct evidence of a 'smoking gun', but apparently he is no longer able to post at MM. I had checked the Miklos Rozsa Forum, yesterday, when I suspected something was amiss and Avie, indeed, was posting there concerning a recent interlocution with William Wyler's daughter, Catherine. Avie is one of those idiosyncratic, principled, rogue intellects who are a vital element in a healthy community - warts, and all. Unfortunately, like the prophets of old, they sometimes cause considerable discomfort, with their views and quirks, among those who are lesser lights, ethically and intellectually. It does not speak well for the quality of tolerance, particularly when the quorks get abstracted from the free-flowing stream of internet messaging. To Avie: Be well, fellow traveller. Bob [Message edited by Bob Bowd on 07-09-2003]
posted 07-09-2003 03:55 AM PT (US)

Jim M Standard Userer	Hello Bob, No need to thank me..Avie is a person I care about, and I always feel the void when he is not around...We all do..But thank you for your sentiments.. Bob, do drop me a line if time permits.. Jim.. [Message edited by Jim M on 07-09-2003]
posted 07-09-2003 10:35 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Standard Userer	Why is it that everybody is acting like "Avie" has passed away? The guy's been banned from posting on a message board and people are acting like it's a funeral here.
posted 07-10-2003 11:34 AM PT (US)

Dana Wilcox Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by jonathan_little: Why is it that everybody is acting like "Avie" has passed away? The guy's been banned from posting on a message board and people are acting like it's a funeral here. I guess some people care about their friends and feel loyalty toward them. Also, in this country, censorship and the curtailment of an individual's right to express himself is taken very seriously.
posted 07-11-2003 08:45 PM PT (US)

Dr. Lao Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by jonathan_little: Why is it that everybody is acting like "Avie" has passed away? The guy's been banned from posting on a message board and people are acting like it's a funeral here. Well my friend, Avie is an eloquent man of wide knowledge. If he has been banned it's really a funeral: RIP good sense on this private forum. I don't think any moderator will be able to shut up this man. This is not the first time people see him as a menace, due to his original thought. [Message edited by Dr. Lao on 07-12-2003]
posted 07-12-2003 06:39 AM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	Telarc has set a Spring 2005 release date for the Rozsa album, according to this article. quote: from High Fidelity Review Miklos Rozsa's Three Choral Suites Cincinnati Pops Orchestra & Mormon Tabernacle Choir with Erich Kunzel, Conductor "Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops take on Miklos Rózsa, one of the 20th Century's greatest film composers and three-time Academy Award winner, in this world premiere recording. Kunzel and the Pops bring Rózsa's Three Choral Suites to life on this massive recording featuring the magnificent Mormon Tabernacle choir. This was Rózsa's final project before his death in 1995, with sixty minutes of music based on the scores of "Quo Vadis?" "Ben Hur" and "King of Kings." Sounds like a good companion to Newman's The Man of Galilee.
posted 11-28-2004 08:19 AM PT (US)

AaronR1074 Standard Userer	Oh MAN. this make sme wanna go back and listen to my backlog of Telarc cds. Star Tracks, Hollywood's Greatest Hits, Chiller, Round-Up.. ahh the childhood memories! Kunzel's work is what single-handedly got me into film music. I thank him for that!
posted 12-03-2004 01:27 PM PT (US)

Hector J. Guzman Standard Userer	It's heeeere! Kunzel conducts Rózsa
posted 03-27-2005 06:38 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=8834
posted 04-22-2005 04:33 PM PT (US)

Dinko Standard Userer	http://www.highfidelityreview.com/reviews/review.asp?reviewnumber=12285042
posted 04-23-2005 08:05 AM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Standard Userer	I haven't heard this disc yet. I'm glad it's out and yet....I'm disappointed that we're getting choral music from these already way too over-recorded film scores rather than say the kind of suites that Rozsa himself recorded for DRG and Polydor or that Gerhardt did for RCA. I welcome any Rozsa conducted well with open arms but this isn't what I had in mind when I first heard about the project.
posted 05-01-2005 07:06 AM PT (US)

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