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Originally posted by PeterK:
I would love to be told otherwise,

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You can't. Because its the same source as the previous release.

Like Mike said, it's completely subjective... maybe we're nuts. I know I've got at least two. Can't speak for Brian. But I can honestly say that I prefer listening to these tracks (previously released or otherwise) over that which is found on my Silva disc.

Peace out!
Jeronimo

I was looking for a good discussion on the technical merits of the new release as compared with the other releases. I have no agenda, I just would like someone to explain why they might hear an absolutely "substantial" improvement when I don't hear anything improved. But, I'll be the fool. If people don't want to explain, that's fine. Sorry I wasted your time trying to get a discussion going that I had interest in.

To edify my perspective for you, if the "absolutely" "substantial" claim was never mentioned, I never would have bothered, as I understand how subjectivity works. The words "absolute" and "substantial" relate to solidity and lean toward objectivity way more than subjectivity. No one argues over substantiability when it is truly substantial, or truly absolute. With that in mind, I asked for an example of this kind of improvement, and all the answers I've seen don't uphold the substantial claim with any support at all. If all these fancy words weren't really meant as they are, meaning this is only PR work, that would diffuse my interest in this immediately.

There is nothing personal going on here, and no friendships are threatened. I am not too certain why this would go there. The language just hooked me in and I wanted to know if my hearing was/is shot.

But I will recognize the retarded path this thread is taking, apologize for it and move on. Later.

I'm all kinds of nuts, I even have some of my very own

--Brian

Funny Jeron

I'm all kinds of nuts, I even have some of my very own

--Brian

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Brian, please.. we don't want to hear about your nuts!!!

LICK LICK LICK LICK!

FoobsZ

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Originally posted by BMikeJ:
I don't know about the rest of you but I actually own all three versions of Cutthroat Island When I listen in the car, which is where I do most of my listening, I can absolutely tell there's a sonic difference between each release.

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*lol* Not to burn off your ears or opinion:

Indeed highly subjective. But benchmarking orchestral works in a car-audio environment is futile?
I mean... you have background noise of the weels turning, the engine and gearbox, the various audible cracks and creeks of a regular car and interior and off course noise pollution from the outside environment.

FoobsZ has 4 Mission 702 speakers on the home cinema system and one Centre Mission MC70.
Power output Sony STR-DB940QS 5x110 watts. Rated output of Mission 702: 75-150 watts, 8 Ohm.

STR-DB940QS soon to be replaced by Yamaha.

What's more, how many of you actually own this score. Not even enough of a sample to have any conclusion.

Just wanted to jump in before there's a WWI here .

I believe those who said they hear a difference and I believe those who said they don't.

I haven't receive mine yet but when I do, it'll be just another subjective opinion. I'm not going going to go through hours of listening back and forth just to convince myself. .... unless one of you pay me for it .

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Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
Jeff where's your sense of humor?

--Brian

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It died after I was forced to sit and watch a Woody Allen movie.

Foobs, listening to music in a self-contained environment like a car is probably going to provide better results than listening to it in a room with a nice stereo and speakers. I'm sure there are a different set of variables that would apply to your listening environment, as well. The variables you mention in my case would depend on what kind of car I drive and what kind of area I'm driving in. Being that close to the speakers, in a closed environment with the windows up, I can get a pretty good idea if there's something wrong or right with a recording.

[Message edited by BMikeJ on 04-06-2005]

I cut a lot out here because I realized I didn't really know what I was talking about.

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Originally posted by Mark:
Pete, I've been told Mike Joffe's name is on the thank you list of the CD. Shill! and I trust a judgement by someone else not tied to the production. There are too many discs being put out and we are forced to weigh all that we can when we have a limited supply of money to spend on discs.

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Let me just chime in here to say Mike Joffe wouldn't "Shill" just because his name is on a CD.

If Mike has an opinion on the sound quality of a CD, I'd take it to heart as he has a good ear for these things.

Also, I find that listening to music in the car is a much better environment and have often picked out details on scores that have otherwise gone unnoticed.

Seriously people, for ONCE, enjoy a release that people (including Debney) have put their time and effort into. I get so sick of people who bitch all the ****ing time about releases like this.

People who bitch about music like this do not have the right to call themselves a "film score enthusiast." People that do **** like this are a disgrace to the name.

I'm gonna go play in the "Star Wars" thread now.

--Brian

What I'm talking about is every time a nice release comes out, be it something like this, or even the Varese Club CDs or what have you, people always seem to bitch about something. I mean the disc came out on Tuesday, how many people actually have the discs and have had the time to compare it to your Silva or New Millennium release?

It just always seems that people bitch and complain about stuff like this and it really bothers me and makes me wonder if people still actually enjoy the music, or are content with bitching about it.

Censorship? Nah. I'm in the business of the media

--Brian

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Originally posted by Mark:
Mike, Mr Fake talks about everything but improved sound. I would trust Mr Fake's comments more than anyone else's but he doesn't even mention the issue. Wouldn't he be one of the persons you want to talk about that?

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Here it is one more time: there is no improved sound. Its the same source as the previous release.

yes go buy it!!!

In any case, I am perfectly satisfied with the Silva release and never bought the 2CD release. In fact, I think even the Silva CD is a bit too long and has too much "bombast" in the latter half of the album. You could easily have trimmed away 15-20 minutes to make it a more fluid listening experience.