Sound effects won’t be present on the CD, just music. Anyone ever notice that the horn call sounded by the lead Mûmak rider is quite close to the Rohan theme? An utter coincidence, of course, but it cracks me up each time.

>>>*****Doug, I was refering to the fact that the End Credits feature more score than the actual scene, I'm sure you know this.*****>>>

Yup, I know, thanks! This is one really long piece of music, and there are several changes that you’ll discover soon.

>>>*****Doug, do you at all know how many pages of notes HS wrote, that makes up each complete recordings, and in the book, will we get examples, or even the whole lot?....just joking about the last bit...but you know how excited we all get.....or will we get everything.....!!!******>>>

Pages of conductor’s scores? Wow, I don’t know the exact count. Thousands. The scores are like phonebooks.

>>>Plan 9's website: http://www.plan9music.co.nz/plan9_home.htm>>>

You’re fast! The site is relatively new, but it is indeed up and running now.

>>>I think Doug told us. Is that correct, Mr. Adams?>>>

>>>Doug quite yanking our chain. Were the pics of the Spanish blog really. I'm pretty convinced.>>>

I’m assuming this is referring to the fan made TTT box artwork on that Spanish blog. No chain yanking, it’s not my style. The pics were fake. The cover was incredibly close… though if you’ve got photoshop and a blue filter, you too could get this close. And to honest, the map positioning was a bit off. The covers of the inserts, however, feature completely different artwork.

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Originally posted by TheTennisBallKid:
The track times showed up when Soundtrack.net got a copy of the FOTR set.

Nice work looking for edits.

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BigT1981:

What he or she meant by the post about the track times is that, back in November 2005, the track times for FotR:CR showed up when Soundtrack.net got a copy of FotR:CR. Meaning that we might not get track times until Soundtrack.net gets a copy of TTT:CR.

But if you already knew what he/she meant, here is the link:

After all, this is no Godzilla release, where they have FX from every monster.</QUOTE>

I wouldn't want other sound effects, but the horns of the Rohirrim at Minas Tirith are a pivotal moment in the movie and especially in the book. More importantly, I read some time ago that the horns were specially chosen to work with the music, or the music was written to be in the same key as the horns, or something along those lines. It's been a while since I read it. In any case, a horn is a musical instrument, and having it on the CD would not be like including the roar of the Balrog or anything else that is purely a special effect.

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*****Thanks that's really excit ing, I can't wait!!!......*****

>>>Pages of conductor’s scores? Wow, I don’t know the exact count. Thousands. The scores are like phonebooks.<<<

*****Sorry, I didn't realise, my mind just hasn't comprehended these things before, but thanks for letting me know how large they are!! *****

>>>gkgyver, I don't know why people want sound effects on these releases. Isn't the whole point of score CDs to have the music without effects?
After all, this is no Godzilla release, where they have FX from every monster.>>>

*****The whole point of the things I have mentioned, and what (I beleive) others have mentioned is that with the FOTR:CR, the people at work placed in the songs/meledy of some of the small tunes that the characters sung or hummed, and because of this, we might have expected them to do similar things with TTT:CR release, and well.....I just didn't know how far they were going to go, and as I am not in control of what is put into the recordings, who knows, the possibilities might be endless...or not....*****

To all those 'concerned' with the cost of TTT:CR, I found that caiman.com through Amazon had the cheapest price for the FOTR:CR (I got it for about $54 American dollars, so around about $72 Australian dollars), and I am constantly ordering CD film scores through them (at least 60 so far this year) , in my opinion they are trustworthy and most reliable......I am down here in South Australia, and I receive all my products within 4 to 14 business working days.....

Hey everyone, I found an article from 11/17/2002 that might be of some interest on www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=100 -
especially paragraph 5 - <<<<<In all, Shore composed "four hours" of music for the film, including "extended material" for the future Expanded Edition DVD of The Two Towers. He ended up "recording three hours" of that music, with about "two hours and forty minutes ultimately used". Some of those pieces, already written but unused, will be on the DVD. "Other pieces are still being written", as Shore has also done recently for the Extended DVD of Fellowship. >>>>>

So in my opinion it might be close to the 4 hour mark, although obviously not exceeding, as only 4 hours can fit on 3 discs.
To quote Doug,"I’m not kidding, there are a huge number of *unused bits* in this score. If the EE was one large step beyond the Theatrical version of this score, then the CR is the same sized step beyond the EE."

So if any of you know how long the score is that is featured in the Extended Edition, find the number, take from that time 2hr and 40min, and then add that number onto the Extended Edition time.......and we might have the total length!!

--Brian

You Lord of the Rings fans will be happy to learn that Reprise Records/WEA and New Line Records will be releasing The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - The Complete Recordings on 11/7 (SRP $75.98). The 4-disc set will include 3 CDs containing the film's complete soundtrack, along with a DVD-Audio disc of the same music in 48kHz/24-bit Dolby Digital 5.1 surround and 2.0 stereo audio. You'll also get a booklet with extensive liner notes. This is the follow-up release to least year's similar box set of the complete soundtrack to The Fellowship of the Ring.

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Because I don't like looking at 1,000 posts to get an answer...why is this release 20 bucks more?

--Brian

NP: X-Files - Fight The Future

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"Just a question.

In FOTR:CR, track 8 (A Conspiracy Unmasked) from 4:49 - 5:00 (very strongly) and continuing uptil 5:30, which in the movie is Gandalf telling Frodo "You must leave. And leave quickly" there's this "theme" that plays along; which is repeated again in ROTK, when Gandalf tells Pippin "Peregrin Took, my lad, there is a task to be done. Another opportunity for one of the Shire-folk to prove their great worth!"

Is there a connexion here? At both places Gandalf is playing his role of moving the Hobbits to do great deeds...in the movie at any rate.

Maybe it's just me, but that's what I'm thinking."

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According to wikipedia,the piece entitled "night camp" will be 2:54 minutes long.Is this true?If so,then why did they post the lenght for only one piece?

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Because we already know the track time of that particular track, but no one knows any of the others. I recently visited Wikipedia hoping to find some track times, and seeing there were none there I took the liberty of posting one myself.

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If I might answer this question to the best of my knowledge, I believe that the version on the CR mostly resembles what was heard in the film, which is one of the reasons why the CR's were produced (but certainly not the only reason). The OST's version has a louder choral part than both the Film's and the CR's version. I am also curious as to what Shore intended. Was the choral part lowered in volume for the Film and thus the CR too, or was it raised for the OST?

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Because I don't like looking at 1,000 posts to get an answer...why is this release 20 bucks more?

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No one knows the answer to that question, not even Doug.

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I'll guess that it's for the same reason the original LOTR: FOTR soundtrack went from 18.98 MSRP to 19.98 MSRP the day after it won the Oscar.

The answer is because Reprise/WB can, and that's all that needs be said. It's about making more money. They can do it, and we will still buy it. I don't like the tactic myself.

But if this fans a little bit of the fire and the real reason can show its face, fantastic! Otherwise, what just said above is what I will settle on....

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[b]Because I don't like looking at 1,000 posts to get an answer...why is this release 20 bucks more?<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

No one knows the answer to that question, not even Doug.[/B]<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll guess that it's for the same reason the original LOTR: FOTR soundtrack went from 18.98 MSRP to 19.98 MSRP the day after it won the Oscar.

The answer is because Reprise/WB can, and that's all that needs be said. It's about making more money. They can do it, and we will still buy it. I don't like the tactic myself.

But if this fans a little bit of the fire and the real reason can show its face, fantastic! Otherwise, what just said above is what I will settle on....[/B]

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No good on that idea!

What, you really don't believe I've posted 519 messages a minute my entire life?

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But really, the manipulated tally was from a joke a few years back.

What, you really don't believe I've posted 519 messages a minute my entire life?

(now you can guess my age)

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Ah, you are a god in your own web world! I see the light now.

Martin

I totally agree with you. This is the single issue I have with the FotR CR... but it is a rather glaring issue nonetheless. In all cases of the Revelation of the Wringwraiths theme, I vastly prefer the OST version (particularly the Shortcut to Mushrooms scene).

Howard Shore stated that he didn't ever see the choir in the LotR scores as a solo instrument, but rather used it as an equal to the orchestra, in volume and writing.

FOTR CR

$59.98/37 tracks= $1.62

TT CR

$75.98/45 tracls=$1.69

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If I might answer this question to the best of my knowledge, I believe that the version on the CR mostly resembles what was heard in the film, which is one of the reasons why the CR's were produced (but certainly not the only reason). The OST's version has a louder choral part than both the Film's and the CR's version. I am also curious as to what Shore intended. Was the choral part lowered in volume for the Film and thus the CR too, or was it raised for the OST?

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I just registered and couldn't think of a better user name at the time, but now I am standardizing my message board user names.

I just discovered a new little motif from Two Towers and was wondering if it is indeed acknowldged as a motif by Mr. Shore. It plays over the part in Two Towers when Frodo, Sam, and Gollum discover the Haradrim and the Olyphants in the Forests of Ithilien, just before they are captured by Faramir and his men. It starts at 1:43:26 on the TT EE. Is it considered a motif for the Haradrim and the Olyphants? This motif can also be heard on the OST on track 13 starting at 45 seconds (which plays in the film right when you see the Olyphants on screen). I also wonder if it is heard at any other moment in the films. If it is indeed a motif for the Haradrim and the Olyphants, then I would suspect to hear it in ROTK, but maybe its just a nice little danger motif only heard in the TT scene.