Is it me, or do these CR sets get better with each listen? I never get tired of hearing how the various themes and motifs evolve and grow throughout the score.

It is not just you. The more I listen to them, the more I hear in them. This was actually also true of the original albums, but the sheer volume of music on the CRs as well as the breadth of material involved means that there are more correlations to make each time. I, for one, didn't even recognize from the original FOTR CD that Aragorn had a specific theme, but hearing that theme develop is one of my favorite aspects of the CRs.

Well I myself find it very hard to listen to one complete recordings set without the other, and I have only had the chance to sit through the recordings together once, being a session of 6 hours and 9 minutes.

Of the FOTR, since I received it in March 2006, I would have to say that I have listened to it about 100 times before TTT came out, and I can't seem to listen to it by itself anymore.

On the occasions that I do listen to TTT (only about 5 times thus far) by itself, it always feels incomplete, as if I have missed something, and I can't find myself listening to it much more.

So this weekend holds a lot of interest for me, for again, I will listen to it back-to-back.

I wonder what my life will be like when ROTK comes out. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder !!!! !!!!

I can't count how many times I've listened to the FOTR CR since I've gotten it, but while I have on many occasions since the TTT CR came out listened to both in succession (granted over the course of two work days), I have been playing a lot of catch-up with TTT. But the experience is much more immersive when both are listened to together, I must say.

Most of us probably know by now that Howard Shore said in an interview a while back that the Return of the King CR set is going to include 4 CDs. Now, considering that to require 4 CDs, the runtime of the RotK set must necessarily be in excess of 240 minutes (4 hrs.).

My question is this: with the resolution of the audio currently on the DVD-Audio disc, will 240 minutes fit on a single DVD, or will this set necessarily include 2 DVDs due to constraints on the DVD format? If so, that would make the set a whopping 6 discs, and probably bear a price tag around $100......... to which I say........... bring it on! I'll buy these sets no matter the price... especially for over 4 hours of pure LotR splendor!

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Originally posted by NeoVoyager:
Well, it's been a little quiet here lately, so I'll ask a question which has been nagging me for some time. Hopefully some of you out there are more knowledgeable about audio formats and such than I and can provide some insight!

Most of us probably know by now that Howard Shore said in an interview a while back that the Return of the King CR set is going to include 4 CDs. Now, considering that to require 4 CDs, the runtime of the RotK set must necessarily be in excess of 240 minutes (4 hrs.).

My question is this: with the resolution of the audio currently on the DVD-Audio disc, will 240 minutes fit on a single DVD, or will this set necessarily include 2 DVDs due to constraints on the DVD format? If so, that would make the set a whopping 6 discs, and probably bear a price tag around $100......... to which I say........... [b]bring it on! I'll buy these sets no matter the price... especially for over 4 hours of pure LotR splendor!

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Originally posted by NeoVoyager:
My question is this: with the resolution of the audio currently on the DVD-Audio disc, will 240 minutes fit on a single DVD, or will this set necessarily include 2 DVDs due to constraints on the DVD format?

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240 minutes is the size of 3 blank CDs. The two towers CR is about 200 minutes, and it is ~1Gb free left on the DVD, so there's still hope.

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
The first two releases were international, so why shouldn't ROTK be as well?

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I don't think in europe the TTT-CR has been available three week after the U.S release. and He was it only with Amazone.uk !
And in france it's sold by a french solder only since few time as a import under 4 and 9 week for delivering !! I don't think this condition are from a "International release" :??:

According to comments Doug made in one of the earlier incarnations of this thread, the quality that the DVD-Audio tracks on Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers were encoded with was chosen because it would be possible to fit the voluminous length of Return of the King on a single disc at that format. It is not all that the advanced resolution format can offer, but it was a decent compromise, and it sounds much better than the CDs do.

So I think the set will consist of four CDs but only one DVD.

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I don't think in europe the TTT-CR has been available three week after the U.S release. and He was it only with Amazone.uk !

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the quality that the DVD-Audio tracks on Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers were encoded with was chosen because it would be possible to fit the voluminous length of Return of the King on a single disc at that format.

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I believe that the original session resolution for all three scores was 24 bit/48 khz. There was some debate about whether to record the second and third films at a higher resolution, but it was decided to stay with 24bit/48khz for consistency. Conveniently, that allows each score to fit on one DVD.

Possible?

If ROTK isn't the most expensive of the three sets, I will buy a copy for every person who has posted in this thread.

(Just kidding.)

Whatever it costs, I will pay it.

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I've posted this : [B]but with 4 CD's it's possible the ROTK-CR will be more expensive !

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Possible?

If ROTK [i]isn't the most expensive of the three sets, I will buy a copy for every person who has posted in this thread.

(Just kidding.)

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iT's too easy to say that. give us the number of your credit card....

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Whatever it costs, I will pay it

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I've not said that cost was a really subject of great anxiety for me. Even if the cost of every thing we buy had its importance. And I answered about the price because this was a subject of previous post .

And If I've Asked for a real international release (we never know) it's to have "the precious" faster than the CR of LOTR and TTT. and If the fast shipping was not so expensive (about 30 $ because there is aditional taxe on) I will be able to pay it. because between the tree week of delay and the 3 or 4 days with the faster shipping
there is only 10$ (but 30 + 20 + 60 = 110 $ almost the double price!!!!! it's too expensive for me I really prefer wait three weeks. i am not crazy )
but maybe the legislation will change on the fast shipping (we really never know)

I've got a burning question for Doug:

Is there any chance that those famous LOTR Trailer Music Sequences "Gothic Power" (Fotr-Trailer) and "Requiem for a Tower" (TTT-Trailer) will find their way on one of the CDs to be released this year?

I know that they've got nothing to do with Shore's excellent work, however it was to quite some degree these tunes that wet the appetite of so many Fans for the LOTR Trilogy and (at least for me) they're linked inextinguishably with the Trilogy itself.

The more I find it a true pity that no CD Version of neither of them exists - so Doug is there any Chance that they might be added as a Bonus to either the ROTK CR or as an additional Bonus for your Book?

Hope this question has not been asked a thousand times before.
If so please forgive me and feel free to send me straight to the dreadful pits of Mordor where I shall never get to hear the ROTK CR.

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Hello everybody!

I've got a burning question for Doug:

Is there any chance that those famous LOTR Trailer Music Sequences "Gothic Power" (Fotr-Trailer) and "Requiem for a Tower" (TTT-Trailer) will find their way on one of the CDs to be released this year?

I know that they've got nothing to do with Shore's excellent work, however it was to quite some degree these tunes that wet the appetite of so many Fans for the LOTR Trilogy and (at least for me) they're linked inextinguishably with the Trilogy itself.

The more I find it a true pity that no CD Version of neither of them exists - so Doug is there any Chance that they might be added as a Bonus to either the ROTK CR or as an additional Bonus for your Book?

Hope this question has not been asked a thousand times before.
If so please forgive me and feel free to send me straight to the dreadful pits of Mordor where I shall never get to hear the ROTK CR.

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I think somebody once did mentioned that the music from "Requiem for a Tower" trailer was available on some of the music-from-trailers compilations on itunes or so. Personally, I believe these clips will not find their way in the CR cause they have no relation to Howard Shore at all.

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>>>>And what about the re-recording of the cue from Clint Mansell's Requiem for a Dream that was featured in the trailer for The Two Towers?>>>

I don't think trailer music not composed by Shore has any place on the albums. It would be like including music from Rainmaker on the first set. I know he orchestrated the piece, but still, it's music from another film.

Howard Shore had nothing to do with the Mansell piece, and so it’s not a part of this set.

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The more I find it a true pity that no CD Version of neither of them exists - so Doug is there any Chance that they might be added as a Bonus to either the ROTK CR or as an additional Bonus for your Book?

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I too am quite sure that you'll never see any of the trailer music that was not Shore's on any upcoming LotR set or disc. However, there is ONE place where you can (legally) get that "Requiem for a Tower" bit that you heard in the Two Towers trailer. It might not technically be exactly the same recording, but it is very close. It was released on the iTunes Store in October due to the demand from fans. Anyway, enough rambling, and here's the link: (and I'll really try not to mess up the entire board again, fellas!)

Requiem for a Tower

Much appreciated!

Here's my picks for 2006:

1. The Fountain - Mansell (easily my favorite score of the year...and movie)
2. Pan's Labyrinth - Navarette
3. Lady in the Water - Howard
4. The Departed - Shore
5. X Men 3 - Powell

1. Pan's Labyrinth - Navarrete
2. X-Men 3 - Powell
3. The Departed - Shore
4. The Fountain - Mansell
5. Lady in the Water - Howard

Nope, I didn't just copy your picks... those are my favorites, truth be told. The only film of these that I've seen is X-Men 3, so I'm evaluating them from an almost purely musical standpoint... but maybe if I saw all those films, my list would shift around a bit. Then again, I've only seen the corresponding films for a small minority of my score collection (I don't watch very many movies!), so I evaluate nearly everything from a purely musical standpoint.

A little commentary:

Pan's Labyrinth - For those of you reading who haven't purchased this score yet...... stop what you are doing right now and buy it (it's available on iTunes too)! It's one of the most refreshing and enthralling scores I've heard in quite a long time. If Navarrete continues to create material of this caliber, he could definitely make the mainstream A-list someday soon.

X-Men 3 - The surprise hit of the year, in my opinion. I was totally prepared to hate this score, as I've never cared for John Powell's stuff before (mostly because I'm not a fan of anything of the Bourne/techno/rock style in film scores)... but I'm very glad I gave it a chance. Powell has crafted a superhero score to stand tall alongside Superman and Batman. Buy it.

The Departed - Nothin' need be said here... it's Maestro Shore!! Excellent work, and especially excellent for me, being a tremendous fan of acoustic and Spanish guitar.

The Fountain - Don't get me wrong. I really really enjoy and respect this score, but I just find quite a bit of the material catering to Mansell's ex-rocker roots (tracks 2 and 3 and the end of 9 come to mind) contrary to my highly classically-trained tastes. However, the rest is largely enjoyable enough to easily put it on my "best of" list. I play in a string quartet too, so I am quite partial to the quartet performances.

Lady in the Water - While I need to give this score some more of my listening time (it was overwhelmed largely by X3 this summer), it's definitely going to be an enduring and well-loved Howard score for years to come.

Still... surprising how similar our tastes are, Bagginz! I look forward to more responses from the resident thread members.

Well at least one of our picks was nominated for the Oscars.

I have not heard the other scores that were nominated, but I am a little disappointed that Mansell's Fountain was overlooked.

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The Departed - Nothin' need be said here... it's Maestro Shore!! Excellent work, and especially excellent for me, being a tremendous fan of acoustic and Spanish guitar.

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I wish they had had the brains to nominate this guitar-based score over the other guitar-based "score".

Ho-hum.

CK

Cheers in advance,
CK