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PeterK FishChip	Wow, how uninspired as a stand alone score. Nothing to speak of in this Isham score to me... nothing in here that recalls an Isham fingerprint. Too bad, as Isham's fingerprints, when they are there, are nice. This begins as a Bourne Identity wannabe, then becomes some K-PAX thing, and... well, NEXT. I don't really like being negative, but argh. This one's really hard to listen to if you are actively listening for something that might inspire, or at least identify a composer's signature. Anyone else?
posted 04-18-2007 10:58 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	I listened to SoundTracknet's First Listen and as such...the first listen was my only listen.
posted 04-18-2007 11:02 PM PT (US)

Kris Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: Wow, how uninspired as a stand alone score. Nothing to speak of in this Isham score to me... Well, it's Isham. What do you expect. Seriously, a lot of his scores are like that in my opinion. Not too often does he write a great stand alone score. He just lacks variety in his scores.
posted 04-19-2007 04:13 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	I don't agree with that as general statement. I will agree he's hit or miss, but when he hits, it's fantastic. Life as a House Fly Away Home Education of Little Tree Black Dahlia Miracle Just a few of the good ones... I don't understand how a composer can be so blah on one project, and superb on another project. Probably has something to do with directors and the temp track affair.
posted 04-19-2007 10:03 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Soundtracknet did a first listen for this? I wonder why.... there are so many other things worth way more attention. My first listen seemed like it was the fifth listen already. Maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the bed when I first heard it.... likely not, though, as my wife would have done me in if I got up on her side of the bed Thank God for Rozsa, knocking down modern scores from his grave! This new Private Lives of Sherlock Holmes is great.... would soundtrack net ever do a first listen for something so good? I doubt it.
posted 04-19-2007 10:09 AM PT (US)

sean Standard Userer	I won't give this one a spin. IMO, Mark Isham is the only composer I'm almost always dissapointed with; actually, more like always, it started with The Net way back when.
posted 04-19-2007 11:18 PM PT (US)

franz_conrad Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: I don't agree with that as general statement. I will agree he's hit or miss, but when he hits, it's fantastic. Life as a House Fly Away Home Education of Little Tree Black Dahlia Miracle Just a few of the good ones... I don't understand how a composer can be so blah on one project, and superb on another project. Probably has something to do with directors and the temp track affair. I think it's when he's doing thrillers that he's least interesting. THE BLACK DAHLIA is probably the one exception to that rule, mostly because there was a strong reason to use more theme-based scoring. RUNNING SCARED, TWISTED, THE NET, KISS THE GIRLS are all among Isham's weaker material.
posted 04-19-2007 11:30 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1> would soundtrack net ever do a first listen for something so good? I doubt it. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Thats not really fair Peter. While they may do their first listens for the hits it will receive (Dead Man's Chest, Superman Returns), its usually nice to hear that stuff before spending your cash. Im assuming you got a free promo copy of NEXT, because if you had listened to the first listen, you sure as hell wouldn't have bought the CD Who needs a first listen for Sherlock? Everyone's who is a fan is going to buy it anyway. And I think this is the first time I have heard you refer to a recording made in Prague as "great" even if only in passing. [Message edited by tjguitar on 04-20-2007]
posted 04-19-2007 11:56 PM PT (US)

Philipp Standard Userer	I love his A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT score, very inspired, very haunting. And I do enjoy QUIZ SHOW very much too. Also an underrated movie. Philipp
posted 04-21-2007 03:33 PM PT (US)

rkeaveney Standard Userer	I think director Lee Tamahori, in full drag, and arrest for solicitation in Hollywood is more entertaining than NEXT could ever be. Ryan
posted 04-21-2007 04:31 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	tj, every original score I've heard Prague do has been great. For those they are paid to take and re-take until it's right. But damned all the re-record albums they do for Silva... one take and that's it. Maybe a little exaggeration in that description, but this is what my ears tell me. But all their original score recordings are fantastic... I know I've said it before somewhere. And aren't all Mark Isham fans going to buy NEXT no matter what? If not, they aren't fans. "The fans are going to buy it anyway" isn't a good refute, but what do I know? Just making a point with a dull pencil...
posted 04-22-2007 10:16 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	quote: tj, every original score I've heard Prague do has been great. For those they are paid to take and re-take until it's right. But damned all the re-record albums they do for Silva... one take and that's it. Maybe a little exaggeration in that description, but this is what my ears tell me. But all their original score recordings are fantastic... I know I've said it before somewhere I don't know some of the OST Prague stuff like Gramee Revell's Dune score leaves a lot to be desired--but that could the composition, not the orchestra.
posted 04-22-2007 10:30 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	quote: And aren't all Mark Isham fans going to buy NEXT no matter what? If not, they aren't fans. "The fans are going to buy it anyway" isn't a good refute, but what do I know? Just making a point with a dull pencil... haha..I guess. I don't know. I didn't really think about that, I thought the golden age stuff has more of a niche crowd--but Mark Isham isn't much of a mainstream name.
posted 04-22-2007 10:32 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	You got me there! I've never heard Revell's "Dune" before... and now I'm not interested even more, d'oh. Personally, I think Isham is just as niche as Rozsa. Not in any similar ways except in numbers of people who may buy their music. Rozsa isn't exactly mainstream either (and shamefully). Look: Isham has a little bit of a lead, as his NEXT is #58000 on the Amazon top seller list, while Rozsa's Centenary box set is #60000. Very close in rank, yet both very far from pop mainstream numbers. These two releases are the newest from both, so a comparison of the two isn't so far-fetched (The Sherlock Holmes CD doesn't appear at Amazon).
posted 04-23-2007 09:14 AM PT (US)

Beatty Standard Userer	If I buy Rozsa C-ary, will I raise it in rank into the <50k range? The differences between those tallies must be fractional units.
posted 04-23-2007 07:58 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Yeah, at the 50,000 level, if a CD sells two copies in a day it'll jump 50% in the rankings. Something like that, anyway. It's really goofy and unnecessary outside of the top 5,000.
posted 04-23-2007 09:48 PM PT (US)

tjguitar Standard Userer	Tom Daish gave this one 3.5 Stars :-O http://soundtrack-express.com/osts/next.htm
posted 07-02-2007 10:41 PM PT (US)

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