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nuts_score Standard Userer	Studios fought over this spec script? Has anyone else seen this movie?
posted 07-02-2008 10:02 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by nuts_score: Studios fought over this spec script? Has anyone else seen this movie? Movie was crap. "Hancock" is being used as a verb now, in some of the halls at Sony. When something that was once really good is terrible, it's been "Hancocked". I kid you not. (And nutz, the script was actually supposedly really good - once upon a time.) My review is here: http://www.soundtrack.net/movies/database/?id=29949&page=review
posted 07-03-2008 12:52 AM PT (US)

Camillu Standard Userer	This sums it up nicely: http://www.awardsdaily.com/?p=499
posted 07-03-2008 07:45 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Thanks for your funny little incite there Dan; it's a relief to know that even Sony knows this one stinks (unless of course you were being sarcastic). I think that this script could've definitely shown potential, I think the overlying idea -- a drunk and belligerent superhero gets cleaned up by a PR guy -- is good material, but this execution (in both script and Peter Berg's near-nauseating direction) was horrid. As it stands, the third act "twist" is telegraphed the moment that the two characters first meet, we're never given any incite as to why Hancock was a drunk and an ignorant bastard, nor why he was so offended by the term "a*hole", the comedy was juvenile AND presented as strong adult material (heavy substance abuse and raunchy language). I think this is the first time I've been offended by bad language in a movie. I have no problems with the words -- in fact, I think they're a beautiful part of the English language -- but this film did not benefit from having such foul content. The film is already dated with its "Soulja Boy" and YouTube references. And I honestly can't believe that Peter Berg made this movie. He's made what is arguably the best high school sports film of the new millenium (as well as a fun action/comedy with The Rubdown) but he just doesn't know how to handle this material. I'm definitely worried for his adaptation for Dune*. Oh, and I CAN'T FRAKKIN' BELIEVE that Michael Mann allowed his name to be anywhere near this turd. [Message edited by nuts_score on 07-03-2008]
posted 07-03-2008 07:06 PM PT (US)

Bond1965 Standard Userer	And from the looks of it, it will stink all the way to the bank. People will go to any crap film these days just because it's Will Smith. James
posted 07-03-2008 07:45 PM PT (US)

StarlessWinter Standard Userer	Nuts, you think foul words are a beautiful part of the English language? ...........what does that even mean? (unless you're kidding? idk....)
posted 07-03-2008 08:03 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Standard Userer	I thought the movie looked like it'd be fun and funny, but after reading everyone's thoughts and reviews... I will wait for video and rent this. Paying $40 to go to the movies and have a bunch of young punk kids sitting around me stoned making comments (which has happened the last 4 times I have gone to the movies, INCLUDING WALL E!!!) and then also not enjoying the movie? No thank you...
posted 07-03-2008 09:27 PM PT (US)

TimT Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by nuts_score: we're never given any incite as to why Hancock was a drunk and an ignorant bastard, nor why he was so offended by the term "ahole",** This reminded me of Back to the Future. Marty Mcfly could never be called "Yellow" without becoming offended. It was a theme that ran in all 3 films. But they never explained why either.
posted 07-03-2008 09:41 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by StarlessWinter: Nuts, you think foul words are a beautiful part of the English language? ...........what does that even mean? (unless you're kidding? idk....) Cursing is a part of the English language and dialect, and it has been for multitudes of years, and it's not going anywhere. They're just words, used to express feelings, emotions, verbs, nouns, adjectives, etc. They're just words. And when put to the right use, they can work some mighty magic (keep in mind, I'm a big fan of David Mamet). I've never been more curious than to wonder why some people frown over WORDS.
posted 07-03-2008 09:46 PM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by scoreguy16: [B]I thought the movie looked like it'd be fun and funny, but after reading everyone's thoughts and reviews... It wasn't fun nor was it funny.
posted 07-03-2008 09:48 PM PT (US)

TimT Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by nuts_score: Cursing is a part of the English language and dialect, and it has been for multitudes of years, and it's not going anywhere. They're just words, used to express feelings, emotions, verbs, nouns, adjectives, etc. They're just words. And when put to the right use, they can work some mighty magic (keep in mind, I'm a big fan of David Mamet). I've never been more curious than to wonder why some people frown over WORDS. So I suppose you use the word nigga alot don't you?
posted 07-03-2008 09:57 PM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	Whoa Tim... I don't think Andrew meant that. But point made. Still... dayum! You went there. Geez louise!
posted 07-03-2008 11:44 PM PT (US)

Ge0rge Standard Userer	Guys, what about the film score?
posted 07-04-2008 03:52 AM PT (US)

Jeron Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Ge0rge: Guys, what about the film score? I heard it was "serviceable" and didn't really distiguish itself from genericism until the final act. Haven't heard it myself, though. Surely it's not worse than Jumper??? Of course, that's not sayin' much. =P
posted 07-04-2008 06:10 AM PT (US)

Stargate Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by nuts_score: And when put to the right use, they can work some mighty magic (keep in mind, I'm a big fan of David Mamet). Agree.. Glengarry Glen Ross has some obscene language that just drives that film.. it's the best unquotable quotable movie!
posted 07-04-2008 07:38 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Ge0rge: Guys, what about the film score? It's alright. There's a definite FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHT/KINGDOM/Michael Mann guitar stuff for the softer scenes, and the action is straight-up Powell. The ending is where the score finally (for me) kicks into hear, and the theme shows itself nicely. Given what Powell went through on the project, it's not a bad score at all. Just not what it could have been (and probably was).
posted 07-04-2008 09:54 AM PT (US)

TimT Standard Userer	I'm curious as to the meaning of the usage of the Theme to Sanford and Son when Hanock sticks a man's head up another man's butt.
posted 07-04-2008 10:10 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	Ugh, Tim, what does THAT even mean (unless of course you were joking, IDK). The term you referenced is a term of ignorance, I don't even consider it a curse word; just an ignorant and unjustified word. Sorry you have me all wrong there. I agree with Dan that the score isn't even that good until the final cue (where it's actually great and some of Powell's best writing). And his use of the Superman build-up was used better in X3.
posted 07-05-2008 12:12 PM PT (US)

Camillu Standard Userer	Saw the film today. Bleh. Was also quite disappointed to note that (if I remember well), the great 'SUV Chase' track that opens the CD was replaced with hip-hop in the film.
posted 07-07-2008 12:46 PM PT (US)

Quill Standard Userer	Well, nowhere near as bad as the folks in the thread would have you believe...but completely throwaway. There was a great idea underlying this film, it was just rushed and haphazardly put together. The humor elements work well in the beginning, and the dramatic undertones that pick up half way through could have worked if they took time to flesh it out. Too short for the ideas it throws out there. The score is forgettable...I almost laughed at the first appearance of the "superhero" theme. Not a turd for $10 and 90 minutes, but there are better options out there.
posted 07-07-2008 09:15 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Standard Userer	The album version let you hear much more. I'd recommend that you listen to it at least once.
posted 07-08-2008 12:11 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by Quill: Too short for the ideas it throws out there. ...and to think they cut nearly 30 minutes off the film about 3 weeks before release.....
posted 07-08-2008 12:53 AM PT (US)

nuts_score Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: ...and to think they cut nearly 30 minutes off the film about 3 weeks before release..... Really?! I couldn't tell! LOL.
posted 07-09-2008 10:17 AM PT (US)

Scorro Standard Userer	We rented 'I Am Legend' recently and thought that was a surprisingly weak zombie flick (especially considering it took in 1/4 billion $'s + all those good reviews)), but it's probably a masterpiece compared to Hancock. Smith is money in the bank though... no matter what, as long as it's a CGI-fest.
posted 07-09-2008 08:07 PM PT (US)

SBD Standard Userer	quote: Originally posted by TimT: I'm curious as to the meaning of the usage of the Theme to Sanford and Son when Hanock sticks a man's head up another man's butt. Thank God I'm not the only one. As I heard the theme song in that scene, I couldn't help but think, 'Is the music supervisor doing blow or something?'. Thinking about it, tracking in "The Water Hazard" (with the ending of "Cutie Pie") from Powell's EVOLUTION would've worked far better. Also, I read the original draft of the script. Maybe it's just me, but what the story originally was wasn't all that much better than what ended up on screen. One man's opinion, though. Feel free to disagree.
posted 07-16-2008 07:58 PM PT (US)

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