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Tom Scofield Non-Standard Userer	John, you've devastated me! I love ATTACK OF THE KILLER SHREWS, I really think it is packed with suspense! (wink, wink) Have you actually seen the film. I don't really think it is that bad, compared to, say, Herschel Gordon Lewis or Eddie Romero films. How ironic, nobody will release THE FALL OF THE HOUSE OF USHER, THE PIT AND THE PENDULUM or MASTER OF THE WORLD (all GREAT scores) on disc, but we do have soundtracks for BLOOD FEAST and 2,000 MANIACS. Need I say any more about justice in America? [This message has been edited by Tom Scofield (edited 20 February 2000).]
posted 02-20-2000 12:57 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Standard Userer	Brother Tom, you again fail to fail me! I quite liked KILLER SHREWS. I think it was actually very slickly made, and BEAUTIFULLY photographed -- I watched it with an actual cinematographer who praised its look to the skies -- and even Bill Warren (in his two-volume "Keep Watching the Skies") pointed out that the wonderful finale MAKES A LOT OF SENSE! (What's more protective than a whole barrel, right? Although I couldn't help making fun of it when the girl starts screaming at the sight of the shrews snapping at her from underneath -- like, right, she didn't know there were going to be shrews there. I improvised "I didn't know there were going to be shrews here! I thought we were just going for a pleasant walk underneath some barrels!!" Well, it was funny at the time ... ) NP: "Come With Me" (Puff Daddy's likable cover of "Kashmir" as heard on the otherwise dreadful GODZILLA [1998], which I've always wanted but wouldn't buy until it got cheap enough, which it just did)
posted 02-20-2000 02:09 PM PT (US)

Leopoldskron unregistered	To MLW - I think that "Exorcist III", is the scariest film ever made! Superior, in every way to the original, and to every other "scary" movie.
posted 02-20-2000 02:19 PM PT (US)

Tom Scofield Non-Standard Userer	Mr. Rocco, I'm sure you are aware that Ray Kellogg, the director of ATTACK OF THE KILLER SHREWS, was one of the greatest second unit directors in Hollywood. He directed all of the special effects and live action flight & fight footage in TORA, TORA, TORA. That's the only one that comes to mind at the moment, but he has directed spectacular sequences from many, many epic scale films and often his sequences were the best parts of these films. Unfortunately, his only other "official" directing credits aside from KILLER SHREWS are THE GIANT GILA MONSTER (much maligned, but I have a place in my heart for this silly but very entertaining (and yes, sincere) anti-classic) and THE GREEN BERETS, one of the Duke's most misguided pictures that I don't think any director could have salvaged. Even the great Miklos Rosza's score is awful. It's just a bad penny film all 'round.
posted 02-20-2000 10:32 PM PT (US)

Leopoldskron unregistered	As poorly made as The Killer Shrews and The Giant Gila Monster are, they are far superior and more scary than The Blair Witch Project (the worst film I ever saw) which, inexplicably, got a lot of praise.
posted 02-23-2000 10:17 AM PT (US)

H Rocco Standard Userer	Oh God, TORA TORA TORA, I could go on endlessly about that one -- you know Kurosawa was enticed aboard when they told him the English-language sequences would be shot by David Lean; instead it was Richard Fleischer (groan ... ) well, Mr. K managed to get himself fired (and screwed himself out of ever making RUNAWAY TRAIN in the bargain, which he'd scouted locations for in upstate New York, but the plug got pulled -- although the final Andrei Konchalovsky version is one of my very favorites.) I'm not sure whether BLAIR WITCH is overrated or not -- since I don't know anyone who's actually liked it. It was a hit, but that's largely because of advertising. I think the "two sequels" idea is a big waste of money (unless they make em roughly as cheap as the original -- there will be curious fans), and it'll be amazing if they even get theatrical release. NP: THE BLUE MAX (Sony 1995 reissue)
posted 02-23-2000 01:22 PM PT (US)

Gae Standard Userer	Dear Al, dont get me wrong..I'm a big fan of Sc-Fi but for some reason these three movies dissapointed me( o.k. maybe "worst" movie is too drastic). The reason for "Sphere" and "Event Horizon" not working for me is that they just seemed to get "lost" in the narrative (Sphere especially). I dont know if it was just bad editing or my lack of concentration but the narrative just seemed to jump and have big "holes" in it..especially for a big Hollywood movie....anyway, thats just my personal opinion (and what do I know..ha,ha?) NP House of Frankenstein
posted 02-23-2000 02:53 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	I! I liked "Blair Witch"! Very much! It was a very impressive movie, I still can't undestand why so many people seem to hate it. The idea to make sequels sounds very stupid, though. NP: Casper (Horner, **/***)
posted 02-23-2000 03:31 PM PT (US)

Sean Bires Standard Userer	That reminds me... Poltergeist II bad. [This message has been edited by Sean Bires (edited 24 February 2000).]
posted 02-24-2000 12:30 AM PT (US)

SFT Standard Userer	Wow! This must be the longest running thread ever! Off the top off my head, the worst movie I�ve ever seen is probably Executive Decision...and Deep Blue Sea comes pretty close also... SFT NP: The Shining, Nicholas Pike */***
posted 02-24-2000 02:27 AM PT (US)

Rick Non-Standard Userer	Most of the worst movies that i have seen have already been mentioned, but one stands out in my mind because I still have nightmares about it. The western with a "female" take.....BAD GIRLS. My God!
posted 02-24-2000 05:06 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	Hm, "Deep Blue Sea" is a strange case. While I agree that it was a REALLY bad movie, it still worked. It was a pile of trash, but as a simple horror movie, it really worked.
posted 02-24-2000 05:23 AM PT (US)

Tom Scofield Non-Standard Userer	Rocco, I am VERY familiar with the TORA, TORA, TORA fiasco. Even without Kurosawa, the dramatic footage shot by the Japanese is much better made than Fleischer's material. And, for its time, Kellogg's second unit material is quite good, and has shown up in countless other films and TV movies.
posted 02-24-2000 12:19 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Standard Userer	Responsibility for TORA's Japanese footage was shared by one director way better than Fleischer (his name is Kinji Fukasaku, a massively accomplished director both of numerous yakuza films, and the remarkable DAY OF RESURRECTION, aka VIRUS -- and he's still working!) and one director roughly as talented as Fleischer (his name is Toshio Masuda, whose only other live-action movie I've seen is the fascinating PROPHECIES OF NOSTRADAMUS, but whose real claim to fame is the direction of the infinitely popular SPACE CRUISER YAMATO series.) I've always wondered if Kurosawa worked on the script or not -- the Japanese scenes are credited to two of his stalwart collaborators, Ryuzo Kikushima and Hideo Oguni. I bet he did, and took his name off. I've also wondered how many of the actors he chose might have decamped after Kurosawa was fired. Few of his usual suspects are in that cast. Richard Zanuck later recalled how hard it was to FIND directors to replace after he sacked Kurosawa -- "I'd fired their idol," he recalled. I'd be VERY interested to know whom he might have approached and been rejected by (instant bets: Kon Ichikawa, Shuei Matsubayashi, Ishiro Honda, and Seiji Maruyama.) You know, if Lean and Kurosawa HAD tried to work together, I bet it'd have been a DISASTER. The two were just too individualistic and hard-headed to have really managed to COLLABORATE. The head-butting over music and editing alone would have given them both concussions ...
posted 02-24-2000 01:46 PM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	UOU! Never tought this thread would go so far... Well, you guys pointed some very bad movies here but I didn't find anything that could match "THE KEEP", which was the one that, in my opinion, had everything a movie needs to be great and failed in just everything... Keep (arghhh!) them coming guys!
posted 02-25-2000 09:51 AM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Tom, I am sorry I crushed you on that film. Its just the bird dog with feathers hanging off that I remember. The Gila Monster was on a twin bill with this Shrews movie. Great stuff. AOK. JW.
posted 02-25-2000 04:21 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Yes, of course I have seen it, Tom. I saw it twice. Once in or around 1961 and second time in 1973 in Flagstaff at 3AM in the morning on the Las Vegas station on cable. I had just returned from overseas where I had the misfortune to escort a young lady whose husband had been killed in a jeep accident in Germany. Once I took care of some business with her I went to bed in the motel. We had been flying on planes for 20 hours or waiting for connections. At 3AM I happened to wake up and this was on TV. I remembered it from earlier days and had a good laugh. Great stuff. Solid film. John.
posted 02-25-2000 04:27 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Standard Userer	I don't think I've ever seen a movie I didn't enjoy somewhat, although I could be wrong. If I don't think I'm gonna like it I won't go see it. If it's on tv and I don't like it I change the channel. If it comes out on video I don't rent it. I like to think of movies in two different categories; senseless enjoyment (you won't get anything out of it, but hey what the hell) and attention getters (you know you will feel emotion or think about it). I like to think movies are made to take us away from reality every once and awhile. So I kinda put my beliefs and brain away and just go and enjoy. If I laugh, cry, get angry or depressed then I know the movie made a point with me. Some movies I can watch over and over and some I can watch once and that's good enough for me. I hope I didn't come across too serious, but I thought I would add my 2 cents worth.
posted 02-27-2000 08:27 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Standard Userer	"Attention, attention ... a herd of gigantic RABBITS is heading this way ... " NP: GAMERA VS. THE SPACE MONSTER VIRAS (by the underrated Kenjiro Hirose -- once a collaborator with John Williams!)
posted 02-27-2000 09:25 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Standard Userer	Night of the Lepus, right? Growling, vicious giant rabbits moving in slow-motion. Great stuff. JW.
posted 02-28-2000 03:46 PM PT (US)

S Smith unregistered	I'm too lazy to read EVERY post here, so if somebody's already mentioned these, I'm sorry. But any movie by Ed Wood (of which I own three) is pretty bad. I think "Glen or Glenda" is the worst, followed directly by "Bride of the Monster."
posted 02-28-2000 05:07 PM PT (US)

SplbrgWlms Standard Userer	This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I just wanted to try and be the 100th reply to this post. I just thought it would be kinda cool. Carry on. NP: Jaws
posted 02-28-2000 05:11 PM PT (US)

SplbrgWlms Standard Userer	Dooh! Ah well.
posted 02-28-2000 05:13 PM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	Justa added "THE BEACH" to my worst list. I don't know what's more ridiculous: 1) Pipino DiCaprio "performance" - I'm cool. No, now I'm fool. No, now I'm a psicopath. No, no! Now I'm a cute teenager who loves to surf the Internet... 2) the laughable "plot" - idiotic folks find a nice beach where they can use drugs, play soccer and listen diskman till the batteries last. But don't reveal their "secrets" otherwise they will bann you. 3) The dreadfull pop/rock soundtrack... Oh, dear... what a waiste of time! Any toughts?
posted 03-01-2000 07:08 AM PT (US)

mlw Standard Userer	THE BEACH shoulda been more like a Fulci movie. The farmers could have hunted the stupid MTVroad rules twits down and given em SMUGGLER style acid baths (you like Acid House music? Peep THIS acid house fool!) . Blow Torches. Even dumber dialog. Island disco music like Donna Summer meets John Barry with the shriek shriek! weird string noises (it has that already, kind of). Then the last third could have been a ripoff of ZOMBIE with voodoo island mayhem and a big pig-out scene. Sal could have done a Jim Jones on everyone. diCappucino's head could get taken back to America in a picnic basket, but it's not worth anything so the french chick can't flip out Warren Oates style and just leaves it in the cab and cries! It better be dubbed though or it'll blow. [This message has been edited by mlw (edited 01 March 2000).]
posted 03-01-2000 12:38 PM PT (US)

Bulldog Standard Userer	Yeah, TREK V is better every time. I thought the worst movie I ever saw was that absolutely atrocious and offensive Jennifer Aniston vehicle THE OBJECT OF MY AFFECTION a couple of years back. Wouldn't watch it again if I had a gun to my head.
posted 03-01-2000 08:15 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Standard Userer	Only you, mlw, would suggest THE BEACH should be more like a Fulci movie ... and even though I'm no huge fan of Lucio's (perhaps I'd like his WHITE FANG, who knows), it would undoubtedly be more interesting than whatever it is the Usual Suspects have foisted upon us this time. I will not see it. I DID see, and was royally ****ed off by, MAN ON THE MOON. Now, as it just happens to happen, Tony Clifton angrily puts together bagels at a place around the corner from me, and I KNOW he was not happy with the way they were portrayed. NP: THE SHADOW (hmm, more multiple personalities ... ) I miss Norman Wexler. (Whoever gets that reference also receives an EXTRA pat on the head, not to mention ALL the c-chip cookies we can spare.)
posted 03-02-2000 01:25 AM PT (US)

Dave Standard Userer	Super Fuzz.....Pete's Dragon.......Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory. All of them scared me as a child and stunted my growth for a few months. dave
posted 03-02-2000 08:44 AM PT (US)

Dave Standard Userer	JAMES, Raiders of the Lost Ark???? You must be kidding me? dave PS I just read the rest of the posts and found that I am super late in questioning this and should be ignored (mouth..foot goes here)...but you can e-mail me with some of your reasons if you wish..I am curious as to why you don't like it. [This message has been edited by Dave (edited 02 March 2000).]
posted 03-02-2000 08:47 AM PT (US)

SBD Standard Userer	It just goes to show you. Just because a movie has the letters "P" & "G" in its rating, that doesn't always guarantee a movie suitable for kids.
posted 03-02-2000 08:51 AM PT (US)

Bradley Standard Userer	Beyond all shadow of a doubt...Showgirls!!!
posted 03-02-2000 11:04 AM PT (US)

Ron Pulliam Standard Userer	George Cukor's "Heller in Pink Tights," starring Anthony Quinn and Sophia Loren. One of the most godawful wastes of time and talent in the history of motion pictures. In Cukor's biography, the only things he wanted to talk about was his color schemes for the movie. !!!!!!!! It aired on AMC in the past week and chances are good you'll get a chance to watch it for yourself. It's one of the few bad movies I've seen that had no entertainment value -- not even unintentional laughs -- whatsoever. Ron [This message has been edited by Ron Pulliam (edited 02 March 2000).]
posted 03-02-2000 12:51 PM PT (US)

JoeInSanDiego Standard Userer	It's a toss up between: 1) Pink Flamingos 2) Firewalker (with Chuck Norris and Louis Gosset Jr.) and 3)the Fifth Element 1) Literally had my fraternity brothers tie me and my pledge brothers to the couch and force us to watch this...all the while giving us some hideous drink concoction that was supposed to me us sick...to this dya I am not sure if it was the drink or the movie that made me hurl...hmmmmmm 2) I can't remember ANYTHING about this...except that I walked out after 15 minutes.... 3) The opera scene was the ONLY saving grace about this film (and what my date was doing to me at the time...sigh...) DISHONORABLE MENTIONS: a) Can't even remember the name of the movie...it was a 80's Ryan O'Neil film about gambling addiction...I managed a movie theatre at the time and told perspective movie goes to stay away at all costs.... b) Mom and Dad Save the World - five words: Terri Garr and Jeffrey Jones. Not even Goldsmith's quirky score could save this one.
posted 03-02-2000 01:27 PM PT (US)

Dave Standard Userer	JOE, Maybe I'll rent 5th Element with my girlfriend this weekend dave
posted 03-02-2000 04:17 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	I found "5th Element" very good. It's exactly what "Armageddon" tried to be: A good, stupid but funny (intendedly) scifi-film. Where "5th Element" was dramatic, "Armageddon" was funny, but too stupid to make me laugh. Where "5th Element" was fun, "Armageddon" was...offensively stupid. IMHO NP: Eric Clapton Unplugged (***/***)
posted 03-02-2000 04:42 PM PT (US)

Leopoldskron unregistered	How happy I am that David Lean had nothing to do with the wonderful "Tora Tora Tora". I hate his films (see my choice for worst film). Also, Marian, I explained why I hated "The Blair Witch Project", in that same post.
posted 03-03-2000 11:51 AM PT (US)

Andre Lux unregistered	"The Fifth Element" is, by far, one of the worst movies ever made. After that incredible piece of abusive crap I promised to myself to never watch another Luc Besson movie. Sorry Marian, but not even "Armagedoon" with all that laughable things hapening on screen was so bad as "Fifth Element"... IMHO, of course.
posted 03-04-2000 05:19 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Standard Userer	Hm, speaking of Luc Besson... "Nikita" was really good, but his own US remake "Codename Nina" was horrible. I mean, remakes are often horrible, but why remake your own movie, and do it so badly??? NP: Eric Clapton Unplugged (Great)
posted 03-05-2000 07:22 AM PT (US)

SBD Standard Userer	This isn't the WORST film I've seen, but it is pretty rank: BABY GENIUSES. In all truth, the premise was good, but everything else sucked, from the gaping discrepancy between the voices of the babies and their mouth movements to the alleged "writing" to Paul Zaza's OK but heavily temped score(a lollipop to whoever guesses the main source of plagarism) Remember when Kathleen Turner made great films?
posted 03-06-2000 03:58 PM PT (US)

John Maher Standard Userer	I'd have to agree with those who selected "The Blair Witch Project". It was really horrid, in every way. I don't think I cared less about the characters of any other film that I have ever seen. Also, it wasn't the slightest bit tense or scary. Just really annoying, or really boring. Either way, I hated it. But for worst regular budget Hollywood flick, I'd pick "The English Patient". My God, the tedium.
posted 03-07-2000 01:09 PM PT (US)

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