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    Topic:   What's new in your Collection - July

     Marian Schedenig
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    All this classical stuff doesn't interest many of the people on the main board (ignorants! ). And while the classical "what's new"s can be even more interesting than those of scores (if someone gets a specific recording you want to know about), long discussions about those aren't really easy there.

    So I figured I'd try and start a sister thread here. And as June's nearly over, I started it for July.


    New today:

    • Camille Saint-Saens: Symphony #3 "Organ" (CSO, Barenboim), Carnival of the Animals, and others - This is a 2CD set from Deutsche Grammophon's "Panorama" series. I've long wanted to hear the Organ symphony, and this is Gramophone's recommended recording, plus it was quite cheap (for a 2CD set) and includes Carnival, too (only had a cheap recording so far)

    According to the liner notes, Saint-Saens even wrote film music. Who knew that?

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    posted 06-28-2002 02:53 PM PT (US)     

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    Way to go Marian you finally got Saint Saens 3rd, and a good version too;that was the first version I heard about 25 years ago.What do you think of the symphony,how about the finale? Most awesome yes indeed! Now what is new: Complete symphonies of Nielsen Berglund/Danish Symphony,Shostakovich Symph no.4 Wha Chung/Philadelphia,Berlioz Overtures Davis/Statskappelle Dresden,Beethoven No.9 Sinopoli/Statskappelle Dresden,and the best for last: Sibelius Complete Symphonies Berglund/Bornemouth Symphony, this cycle is way better than his Helsinki Philharmonic version, its fantastic!!!!!Oh the Beethoven is just volcanic, a wow reading and recording.Hail Berglund, Hail Sinopoli!

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    posted 06-28-2002 09:59 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I've only played it once so far, but it sounds great. Carnival is a great recording, too - after posting the above, I noticed that not only the symphony, but also piano concerto #2 and Carnival are Gramophone's recommended recordings. Of course, they sometimes recommmend strange stuff, but as far as I can tell, these are excellent.

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    posted 06-29-2002 05:17 AM PT (US)     

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    If my June package finally arrives for July (it appears HMV UK's "express shipping" option is slower than regular snail mail) then it should be some interesting stuff, all of it for half the local Canadian price.

    Stuff which should be inside:
    Rimsky-K: Scheherazade (Temirkanov/NYP/RCA)
    Tchaikovsky: Swan Lake (MTT/LSO/Sony) - hopefully better than the half asleep Dutoit/Montreal/Decca version I have.
    Tchaikovsky: Nutcracker (MTT/Philharmonia/Sony)
    Verdi/Rossini: Requiem (Ormandy/Philadelphia + Schippers/NYP/Sony)
    Blackford: Mirrors of Perfection (Ying Huang & some other people/Sony)

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    posted 06-29-2002 02:10 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    According to the liner notes, Saint-Saens even wrote film music. Who knew that?

    Many people knew I think.


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    posted 06-29-2002 02:11 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    According to the liner notes, Saint-Saens even wrote film music. Who knew that?

    "L'assassinat du Duc de Guise" in 1908, I
    think the first score originally composed
    for films.



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    posted 06-30-2002 12:00 PM PT (US)     

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    What I know about this is that it is the first score specifically composed for a film by an established composer.

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    posted 06-30-2002 01:03 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dinko:
    What I know about this is that it is the first score specifically composed for a film by an established composer.

    I have yet to see an earlier credit for ORIGINAL composition ...

    Ususally film scores before that were adaptions


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    posted 06-30-2002 01:42 PM PT (US)     

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    No argument there. I'm just repeating what I've seen about "established composer". Don't know anything about what was the actual first original score.

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    posted 06-30-2002 05:24 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    New today:

    • Wojciech Kilar: Choral and Orchestral Works (Naxos) - includes Krzesany, Angelus, Exodus and Victoria (Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra (Katowice), Antoni Wit)

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    posted 07-03-2002 11:00 AM PT (US)     

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    You found it? Wow!

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    posted 07-03-2002 12:20 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I found it....and I like it!

    NP: Kilar: Exodus (PNRSO, Wit)

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    posted 07-03-2002 02:29 PM PT (US)     

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    Much better than the old Olympia recording eh Marian?!

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    posted 07-03-2002 05:15 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I must confess I haven't played the Olympia in ages, but since I've probably played the Naxos more often already, it's probably better.

    I only now realized that orchestra and conductor are the same for Angelus and Exodus, but the Naxos recordings are much newer, and have great sound. Plus Krzesany is cool, and Victoria is wonderful.

    I'm afraid I liked this much more than Minority Report (though I should play that a few more times before giving any judgement).

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    posted 07-05-2002 07:41 AM PT (US)     

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    Horn Concertos No. 1 and 2/ Duet Concertino/ Oboe Concerto (Richard Strauss, Andre Previn, Wiener Philharmoniker)

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    posted 07-05-2002 10:54 AM PT (US)     

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    • Japanese Orchestral Favourites - Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra/Ryusuke Numajiri.
      Listened only once, very quickly. Too early for meaningful comments, but I think the Akutagawa piece sounds best.

    • Shostakovich: The Bolt + Jazz Suites - RSSO/Yablonski (Naxos)
      Don't like it. RSSO plays well. Recording is good, though balance/mixing needs to be improved, with slightly more emphasis on strings. There's nothing really bad with the CD, but there's a lot of unattained potential. And Yablonski screws up the best waltz in the set by speeding it up to Formula 1 levels, thus eliminating all the majestic flow of the waltz.

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    posted 07-07-2002 02:23 PM PT (US)     

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    New this weekend:

    John Adams: Century Rolls / Lollapalooza / Slonimsky's Earbox
    Nonesuch 79607-2. This was a great buy. Adams is a true genius. All three pieces are quite good. Century Rolls is an enjoyable and impressive piano concerto in three movement. The first movement is by far the best. Lollapalooza is fun, short little romp through the orchestra, and Slonimsky's Earbox is absolutely stunning. I would've paid full price just for this 13-minute piece. Hell, just for the last three minutes of it. Fantastic.

    Kilar: Choral and Orchestral Works
    What Marian said. This is a great CD. Angelus is my favorite.

    Malcolm Arnold: Dances
    Naxos 8.553526. I decided to get this after hearing the English Dances (Set 2) on the radio. Checked around and these recordings (Andrew Penny / Queensland Symphony Orchestar) have gotten good reviews. This is my first exposure to Arnold's concert work, and I'm floored. Next stop: the symphonies.

    Kirk
    NP - Green Dragon (Jeff & Mychael Danna, *****)

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    posted 07-14-2002 10:36 PM PT (US)     

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    VAUGHAN WILLIAMS SYMPHONY NO. 4 LSO/Hickox on Chandos 9984. OH MY GAWD!!!!!!!

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    posted 07-15-2002 10:56 PM PT (US)     

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    "Mathis, der Mahler"/Concerto for Trumpet, Basson and Strings/ Nobilissima Vissione, Symphoniy in E Flat/ Symphonia Serenea (Paul Hindemith, Dresdner Philharmonie, Herbert Kegel)
    Eine Alpensymphonie/Rosenkavaliersuite (Richard Strauss, Wiener Philharmoniker, Christian Telemann)
    Missa Solemnis (Ludwig Van Beethoven, The Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Nikolaus Harnoncourt)

    Best

    Philipp

    np: Mathis der Maler (Paul Hindemith)

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    posted 07-16-2002 09:09 AM PT (US)     

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    Phillip that Alpine Symphony with Thielemann is an awesome recording and reading -it kicks ass. What did you think of the storm sequence? Pretty amazing yes.

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    posted 07-16-2002 10:11 PM PT (US)     

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    Michael Nyman: The Piano Concerto / MGV
    Kathryn Stott, solo piano
    The Royal Liverpool Philharmonic (Pno Cnctro)
    Michael Nyman Band & Orchestra (MGV)
    Michael Nyman, conductor
    Argo 443 382-2

    MGV is Nyman's masterpiece. Truly one of the most emotional, driving pieces of music in my collection. This is the type of thing music was invented for.

    The Piano Concerto (based, in case you couldn'tfigure it out, on The Piano) I already have on Naxos, and I'm not sure yet whether I like this version or that one better. The acoustics on the Argo recording are infinitely superior, but the RLPO's entire wind and brass section seems lost and confused, while on the Naxos recording the wind and brass are great but the strings don't seem together (which may have been a reverb overkill problem).

    Regardless of those shortcomings, this CD is worth seeking out just for MGV. If you've ever even remotely liked Nyman, you will love this piece.

    Kirk
    NP - MGV

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    posted 07-21-2002 11:52 PM PT (US)     

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    Shostakovich: Complete Symphonies, Barshai
    Wallace: Creation Symphony
    Chadwick: Orchestral Works, Naxos
    Guarnieri: Symphonies 2, 3
    Bendix: Complete Symphonies
    McCabe: Edward II Ballet
    Rott: Symphony, Pastoral Overture, CPO (This is a great find for those of us who love Bruckner and Mahler)


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    posted 07-22-2002 02:49 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by mgh:
    Shostakovich: Complete Symphonies, Barshai

    oh yeah. now you talkin'.


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    posted 07-22-2002 05:54 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Originally posted by James:
    Michael Nyman: The Piano Concerto / MGV

    Ooh, great CD. Now do you have the album containing Double Concerto for Saxophone, Cello and Orchestra, Concerto for Harpsichord and Strings and Concerto for Trombone and Orchestra (on EMI)? I like that one even more - my favourite Nyman disc.

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    posted 07-22-2002 06:35 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    Now do you have the album containing Double Concerto for Saxophone, Cello and Orchestra, Concerto for Harpsichord and Strings and Concerto for Trombone and Orchestra (on EMI)? I like that one even more - my favourite Nyman disc.

    I don't have that one yet. After Extra Time was next on my Nyman list, but I'll move this one up to the top given your glowing recommendation.

    Kirk

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    posted 07-22-2002 08:59 PM PT (US)     

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    Well, I don't have After Extra Time, so I can't compare the two.

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    posted 07-23-2002 06:24 AM PT (US)     

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    RVW 4, Hickox

    it is outstanding.

    and I even love the choral pieces, too.

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    posted 07-23-2002 09:50 AM PT (US)     

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    • Bruckner: Mass #3 / Te Deum (LPO, Franz Welser-Möst)
      I think this has been out of print for months, possibly years. Not even EMI's website lists it, so I picked it up before it's too late. At least the Te Deum didn't sound like a very good recording though, at least not on the first listen. Perhaps it gets better.
    • Adams: Harmonielehre / The Chairman Dances / Tromba Lontana / Short Ride in a Fast Machine (CBSO, Rattle)
      Heard Short Ride in a concert several months ago and liked it. Seems to have been an inspiration for Don Davis when he wrote his Matrix score. Rest is similar. Good.

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    posted 07-23-2002 02:54 PM PT (US)     

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    Hmm, just noticed that the Bruckner album was mixed by Simon Rhodes. Doesn't sound too good though. The Mass is fine (though it doesn't sound great), but the Te Deum has no transparency at all.

    NP: Bruckner: Mass #3 (LPO, Welser-Möst)

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    posted 07-23-2002 06:10 PM PT (US)     

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    'Mixed' or 'recorded and mixed'?

    I have an album which was 'mixed' by Rhodes, but not 'recorded' by him, and it doesn't sound that great either.

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    posted 07-23-2002 07:01 PM PT (US)     

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    The only technical credits in the booklet are for Producer, Balance Engineer and Editors. Rhodes was the Balance Engineer, whatever that means.

    After a second listen, it doesn't sound quite that bad. The voices sound good. But I still can only hear half of the instruments I hear in Jochum's 60s recording.

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    posted 07-24-2002 06:38 AM PT (US)     

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    From the google search I did some months ago, the "balance engineer" in most recordings would be the "recording and mixing" engineer.

    But the "balance engineer" on Deutsche Grammophon is someone different. Apparently the DG bal.eng. is the one responsible for how the CD sounds, whereas the DG recording engineer basically appears to do whatever the balance engineer tells him to.

    But that's only extrapolation from some more or less vague explanations of "balance engineer" "recording engineer" "mixing engineer" and "scoring mixer" that I found on the 'net. Was not able to get definitive answers and definitions.

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    posted 07-24-2002 12:17 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by JJH:
    RVW 4, Hickox

    it is outstanding.

    and I even love the choral pieces, too.


    Indeed it is!

    JJ, have you picked up Hickox's RVW # 2?

    Believe me man, you need to, it's fabulous!


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    posted 07-24-2002 05:16 PM PT (US)     

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    I got the number 2 the day it was made available! it too is awesome!

    NP -- The Mists of Avalon, Holdridge

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    posted 07-24-2002 09:21 PM PT (US)     

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    New today.


    • Paul Hindemith - Mathis der Maler
      Wolfgang Sawallisch/The Philadelphia Orchestra (EMI Classics)

    Had never heard anything by Hindemith.
    Sounds good. Nicely pleasant and pastoral. A strange cross between Beethoven and 20th Century Brit music.
    Philly Orch in top form. Sawallisch's account seems fluid and balletic. Can't compare with other versions though. John Kurlander's engineering favours the Philly strings a little too much, with some very bright & clear woodwind playing.
    Overall a very nice CD.
    Or as Doug Fake would put it: Bullseye.

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